Ot. Covid deaths by dec 2022

Submitted by scaredyclassic on August 11, 2021 - 6:24pm
50 million plus
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25 to 50 million
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10 to 25 million
0% (0 votes)
5 to 10 million
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4 to 5 million
17% (1 vote)
3 to 4 million
0% (0 votes)
2 to 3 million
0% (0 votes)
1 to 2 million
33% (2 votes)
Less than one million.
50% (3 votes)
It's a hoax, no one died from covid, they died from other causes, including vaccines, etc
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 6
Submitted by sdrealtor on August 23, 2021 - 4:54pm.

Nice now you have advanced to ad hominen attacks. What do we have to look forward to next and why so angry?

Submitted by zk on August 23, 2021 - 5:21pm.

sdrealtor wrote:
Nice now you have advanced to ad hominen attacks. What do we have to look forward to next and why so angry?

Describing your behavior is not an ad hominem attack. I'm pretty sure you know that. How is you calling me angry any different from me calling you cowardly?

Submitted by sdrealtor on August 23, 2021 - 6:04pm.

You win. You're the best. On ignore

Submitted by zk on August 23, 2021 - 6:50pm.

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Submitted by scaredyclassic on August 23, 2021 - 8:38pm.

Covids got everyone a bit touchy, self included. But it is hilarious that even trump can't persuade any chuckleheads to vaccinate.

Submitted by sdrealtor on August 24, 2021 - 6:47am.

He's losing control of his knuckleheads. I just look to the right and see the vast majority of threads about real estate again here. That's good. Not gonna participate in turning this place into a political pissing match again. Been there done that. Too many other places for that

Submitted by ucodegen on August 24, 2021 - 6:57pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
ucodegen wrote:
an wrote:
Darwin's a bitch

And very unforgiving of stupidity!

Not sure about that. Stupid people seem to be reproducing faster than higher iq people.


IQ and stupidity are not correlated. I have come across some very smart-high IQ individuals that couldn't screw in a lightbulb if their life depended upon it. Stupidity and lack of 'Common Sense' may be correlated though.

Maybe, like rabbits, they are trying to reproduce faster than Darwin kills them off?

Submitted by ucodegen on August 24, 2021 - 7:08pm.

an wrote:
zk wrote:
an wrote:
COVID doesn't care how smart or stupid you are

Well, sure, the actual virus has no such concerns. But if you are so stupid / brainwashed / ignorant that you don't get vaccinated, you are a lot more likely to die from COVID.

I know stupid people who got vaccinated and smart people who refused to get it. BTW, the population that has the lowest vaccination rate are black and Hispanic.

Actually there is point there.. Myself, my S.O. and her sister had to do a bit of arm-twisting to get their brother and parents to vaccinate. They are Democrats, and Asian.

There may be a reduced willingness to trust a government from those who have previously been subject to an untrustworthy government.

As for the 'Holy Roller' far-right-side of the isle; I would suggest they look up the warning on 'false prophets', and 'not testing God'-to save you from your own bad decisions. I think the last one is under Luke 4:12. Besides, who is to say that God did not have a hand in helping inspire those that developed the vaccine in record time?

Submitted by ucodegen on August 24, 2021 - 7:45pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
Covids got everyone a bit touchy, self included. But it is hilarious that even trump can't persuade any chuckleheads to vaccinate.

While 'hilarious', I also found it a bit scary. Trump built his support from the far-right, instead of 'right side of middle'. There is a cost to appeasing to the extreme edges of the political spectrum (both left and right extremes). The video of his constituents 'boo-ing' sound advice and even his admission that he was vaccinated demonstrates that. Trump would have been more successful and sounded more rational if he stayed more central. He might have even had a second term. There are more 'right of central voters' than far-right and Trump succeeded in alienating many 'right of central' voters.

Submitted by phaster on August 29, 2021 - 6:28pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
ucodegen wrote:
an wrote:
Darwin's a bitch

And very unforgiving of stupidity!

Not sure about that. Stupid people seem to be reproducing faster than higher iq people.

here in San Diego things are different,... since leadership has everything under control

sigh,... we're up shit creek

Submitted by scaredyclassic on August 29, 2021 - 7:49pm.

would a city bankruptcy affect real estate prices?

Submitted by XBoxBoy on August 30, 2021 - 12:06pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
would a city bankruptcy affect real estate prices?

I doubt if it would have much impact. It might dissuade a few people from moving here, but not many, and I doubt it would cause many to move away.

And despite Phaster's interesting collection of cartoons, I don't share the doom and gloom predictions of eminent collapse of San Diego.

Submitted by sdrealtor on August 30, 2021 - 3:10pm.

Collapse? Our Crown Jewel UC is booming. Freeway expansion is proceeding on target and will be a major improvement. Trolley extension opens in November and as far as I know on time and budget. I see new restaurants and businesses opening almost daily. I see only growth and further good times for SD. Now we just need to get some more affordable housing built in the core of the county

Submitted by phaster on August 30, 2021 - 8:16pm.

XBoxBoy wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
would a city bankruptcy affect real estate prices?

I doubt if it would have much impact. It might dissuade a few people from moving here, but not many, and I doubt it would cause many to move away.

And despite Phaster's interesting collection of cartoons, I don't share the doom and gloom predictions of eminent collapse of San Diego.

over the short run, $hit for brains leadership (here in SD) would not have a large detrimental effect on RE prices because we are fortunate to have diverse high tech jobs in the region ALONG w/ the advantage of having various military bases (which keeps things stable)

IOW IMHO a muni bankruptcy here in SD would be more akin to the 1994 orange county bankruptcy

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m...

rather than detroit’s muni bankruptcy

https://www.barrons.com/articles/seven-l...

because the SD economy is very similar to the diverse orange county economy (where-as detroit only has "auto manufacturing")

I’ve been a lucky investor (and so too have many pigg’s),… what I mean by this statement is, we are fortunate to have been in a market where there was a rising tide,… going forward looking at the MUCH BIGGER PICTURE things look rough

last week a news report of “rain” was in my newsfeed WHICH really got my attention because where it happened is as likely as,... “a snowballs chance in hell”

since skeptics of man made climate change for years have likened climate science as akin to believing in a cult religion

https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2012/...

perhaps religious references might be appropriate to frame the weather report of “rain”

...just a wild guess but the shock and awe of scientists who first saw rain falling on top of a mountain in the arctic circle,... is akin to the shock and awe of Moses who came upon the burning bush

science tells us,... the arctic region since the time of Jesus, has been frozen solid

yet looking at the science news/journals we see a warming trend AND now there is rain falling in the arctic region

point being if trends continue and the Greenland ice cap melts,... science indicates there will be a global flood sorta like as described in story of Noah

global flooding won't be a dramatic event as is depicted in blockbuster movies w/ over the top special effects,... BUT there will be various knock on effects like wide spread droughts (which can last thousands of years)

https://www.piggington.com/water_utah#co...

anyway to put the arctic rain event into context and hopefully make things easily understandable,... annotated a google map w/ an icon of the devil and a snowball along w/ science sources (so it is possible to verify the information)

FWIW,... over geological time (i.e. tens to hundreds of thousands of years) the earths orbit moves further away from the sun,... when the earth is further away from the sun, the average temperature dramatically drops (this is why the earth has ice ages)

at the present moment, the earth’s long term orbit is heading further away from the sun (so the average temperature of the earth should be slowly cooling down)

what few people think about is,... since the start of the industrial revolution, thousands of gigaton of man made CO2 (which is a long lived greenhouse gas) were released into the atmosphere by burning, coal, methane, gas, diesel, etc.

NOTE a gigaton is the weight of a cubic km of water

bottom line (looking at the science),… seems rain on top of a mountain in the arctic region should have something akin to “a snowballs chance in hell” but it did happen

so combine dramatic climate change w/ other issues like leadership essentially being no talent a$$ clowns AND we have a recipe for disaster (on a biblical scale)

...there won't be an eminent collapse of San Diego,... as I see things, the collapse will be long and drawn out (unless things change dramatically)

PS since the economy is global in nature,... individual areas (like the SD) won't all of sudden go bust,... while neighboring areas like "orange county" and "temecula" continue to thrive

best analogy I can think of to model a global "integrated" economy is to consider pressure building up on a tectonic plate,... IOW lots of bad financial stuff can be swept under the carpet AND things will continue to keep on looking rosy,... BUT when the financial pressures becomes too great there will be a sudden financial "earthquake" that will have widespread felt effects

Submitted by sdrealtor on August 30, 2021 - 8:56pm.

phaster wrote:
XBoxBoy wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
would a city bankruptcy affect real estate prices?

I doubt if it would have much impact. It might dissuade a few people from moving here, but not many, and I doubt it would cause many to move away.

And despite Phaster's interesting collection of cartoons, I don't share the doom and gloom predictions of eminent collapse of San Diego.

I’ve been a lucky investor (and so too have many pigg’s),… what I mean by this statement is, we are fortunate to have been in a market where there was a rising tide,… going forward looking at the MUCH BIGGER PICTURE things look rough

Dude you've been calling for doomsday since you got here more than 5 years ago

Submitted by phaster on September 8, 2021 - 12:41pm.

sdrealtor wrote:
phaster wrote:
XBoxBoy wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
would a city bankruptcy affect real estate prices?

I doubt if it would have much impact. It might dissuade a few people from moving here, but not many, and I doubt it would cause many to move away.

And despite Phaster's interesting collection of cartoons, I don't share the doom and gloom predictions of eminent collapse of San Diego.

I’ve been a lucky investor (and so too have many pigg’s),… what I mean by this statement is, we are fortunate to have been in a market where there was a rising tide,… going forward looking at the MUCH BIGGER PICTURE things look rough

Dude you've been calling for doomsday since you got here more than 5 years ago

an economic doomsday event (of sorts) will eventually happen,... this is because history as it has been said, repeats its self

IOW way too many unaddressed systemic issues like mismanagement of tax payer debt obligations (i.e. pensions) which caused Orange County and the city of Detroit to face going through bankruptcy because of portfolio mismanagement,... is happening here in SD as well as at the state level

looking at history again, we're heading for a perfect storm,... because we have not built infrastructure to withstand mega droughts (which have happened before in the south western USA)

the one BIG unknown (that has never happened before in history) is what effect will man made climate change have on the global economy,...

as an investor I believe the best way to survive a doomsday event, is to have a big "margin of safety" (and FWIW this is a title of good investors read)

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/7...

learned long ago to be successful one needs to look for doomsday events

FWIW I actually got my first doomsday "investors" lessen as a teenager when my dad gave me $500 dollars to invest,... long story short I lost it all

point being the lesson my dad (who worked in the aerospace sector) was trying to make me realize is.... like any aircraft that has gone through a development process to find all all the bugs before being put into operation,... to be a successful investor on needs to have a "margin of safety" know the "operational limits" and not wait too long before "punching out" because I road my first investment into the ground

I'm guessing by your "moniker" you are a "realtor" and thus make your living selling optimism

point being selling optimism is the same thing politicians do,... looking at history we see politicians in Orange County and the city of Detroit drove those places directly into bankruptcy because they didn't have the brains to consider the doomsday financial consequences of their idiotic optimism

think of it this way,... would you trust your life on an airplane designed and built by an optimism politician OR would you rather trust your life on an airplane designed and built by an individual who has looked for and thought about what kind of doomsday scenarios and aircraft could face in operational use

PS 5 years in the market isn't all that long,... I've been playing the market for many decades and can say I've comfortably beat the market averages

bottom line, I'm hoping when (it's not a question of "if") economic mismanagement pressures build up enough to cause an economic doomsday earthquake,... I'll have a comfortable "margin of safety"

Submitted by sdrealtor on September 8, 2021 - 1:32pm.

So in the history of the US out of thousands of cities you pull out two examples? Detroit which fell with the US auto industry and OC which was a one off mismangement/fraud. Oh and Im a pragmatist not an optimist. If i sell anything its locking in and controlling our biggest lifetime expenditure over the long term for safety and security. And Ive beat the averages for decades also

Submitted by Coronita on September 8, 2021 - 2:48pm.

Got peak oil?

Submitted by Coronita on September 8, 2021 - 2:54pm.

A broken clock technically could be correct up to 3 times a day, not just two times... Daylight savings time change could technically make a broken clock read the correct same time 3 times that day....

Submitted by an on September 8, 2021 - 2:56pm.

Coronita wrote:
A broken clock technically could be correct up to 3 times a day, not just two times... Daylight savings time change could technically make a broken clock read the correct same time 3 times that day....

broken clock technically can be correct a lot more than 3 times a day. You just need to start heading west and cross over a new timezone before the hour

Submitted by Coronita on September 8, 2021 - 3:01pm.

an wrote:
Coronita wrote:
A broken clock technically could be correct up to 3 times a day, not just two times... Daylight savings time change could technically make a broken clock read the correct same time 3 times that day....

broken clock technically can be correct a lot more than 3 times a day. You just need to start heading west and cross over a new timezone before the hour

well, in theory true. but in practice, clocks are either analog or digital. Analog clocks typically are stationary and are not found inside a vehicle that would allow you to travel quick enough to cross a timezone. "clocks" are typically digital inside vehocles and digital clocks don't stay stuck when they are broken. they simply don't display anything.... we have to consider the most common plausible scenarios. It's highly unlikely an individual would be carrying around an analog clock that happens to break and stop moving as they cross a timezone.

but it is a very likely scenario that an analog wall clock stops working because it runs out of battery and the owner never replaces it right after daylight savings kicks in

Submitted by an on September 8, 2021 - 3:16pm.

Coronita wrote:
but it is a very likely scenario that an analog wall clock stops working because it runs out of battery and the owner never replaces it right after daylight savings kicks in
I'm referring to this type of broken clock and you stick it in a private jet and fly it from one time zone to the next while heading West.

Submitted by Coronita on September 8, 2021 - 3:22pm.

an wrote:
Coronita wrote:
but it is a very likely scenario that an analog wall clock stops working because it runs out of battery and the owner never replaces it right after daylight savings kicks in
I'm referring to this type of broken clock and you stick it in a private plane and fly it from one time zone to the next while heading West.

Ah. That's right. Uber rich people like Mira Mesa kingpins like you would know about private planes with Bulova analog clocks.

Poor people living in the lizard infested ghettos of 92130 like me would know NOTHING about private planes with Bulova clocks, and if we're lucky when we can afford to travel even economy class on Southwurst Airlines and keep track of time with our cheapo Timex watches....

Which brings me back to my original point about "plausible event" for most people. Being an 1% club with access to a Bulova clock infested private plane does not count for the rest of the 99% of us that need to take Southwurst Airlines. It's a scenario that 99% of cannot relate...Unless you're like Flyer who is oozing with wealth who constantly needs to remind us....Therefore, it doesn't count. Same could be said for any billionaire that can bring a clock with them on a spaceship.... Not a plausible scenario for most people....

Submitted by an on September 8, 2021 - 3:23pm.

Coronita wrote:
an wrote:
Coronita wrote:
but it is a very likely scenario that an analog wall clock stops working because it runs out of battery and the owner never replaces it right after daylight savings kicks in
I'm referring to this type of broken clock and you stick it in a private plane and fly it from one time zone to the next while heading West.

Ah. That's right. Uber rich people like Mira Mesa kingpins like you would know about private planes with Bulova analog clocks.

Poor people living in the lizard infested ghettos of 92130 like me would know NOTHING about private planes with Bulova clocks, and if we're lucky when we can afford to travel even economy class on Southwurst Airlines and keep track of time with our cheapo Timex watches....

Which brings me back to my original point about "plausible event" for most people. Being an 1% club with access to a Bulova clock infested private plane does not count for the rest of the 99% of us that need to take Southwurst Airlines. It's a scenario that 99% of cannot relate...Unless you're like Flyer who is oozing with wealth who constantly needs to remind us....Therefore, it doesn't count. Same could be said for any billionaire that can bring a clock with them on a spaceship.... Not a plausible scenario for most people....


... mic drop ...