Who else was swamped by unsolicited political emails from friends?

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Submitted by fredo4 on November 7, 2008 - 11:13pm

I got a lot of really preachy pro-Obama video/blog links. Some people are like religious fanatics with Obama. This Onion video sums it all up beautifully.


Submitted by NotCranky on November 8, 2008 - 7:34am.

I didn't get anything. My wife got one email about "white privelege".It speaks to the question ..."how can Americans think of McCain-Palin as a viable ticket next to Obama?" I can forward it to you if you would like?

Submitted by sdduuuude on November 8, 2008 - 8:47am.

I didn't get any - my friends know better.

I was, however, swamped with OT: Political posts on this forum. So happy it's over.

That Onion video is a riot !

Submitted by Coronita on November 8, 2008 - 11:10am.

Yes, it usually happens when i log onto a website called piggington.com... Just kidding....

But I do see your point....

I remember when Bush got elected...Lot's of people were all bummed out at work, and folks talked and talked about it. (I was disappointed myself)...Common say ended up being "he won, get over it..."...So I guess it's time to just acknowledge...Obama won. Get over it...

Ron Paul 2012 :)

Submitted by fredo4 on November 8, 2008 - 9:44pm.

Rustico-- I'd love to see that. htubild@aol.com

Submitted by NotCranky on November 8, 2008 - 10:11pm.

I thought you had enough Fredo4!

It was easier to find it on the web. I think there is something related on Youtube as well.

September, 14 2008

By Tim Wise

For those who still can’t grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are constantly looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help.

* White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because “every family has challenges,” even as black and Latino families with similar “challenges” are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.
* White privilege is when you can call yourself a “fuckin’ redneck,” like Bristol Palin’s boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you’ll “kick their fuckin’ ass,” and talk about how you like to “shoot shit” for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.
* White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.
* White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don’t all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you’re “untested.”
* White privilege is being able to say that you support the words “under God” in the pledge of allegiance because “if it was good enough for the founding fathers, it’s good enough for me,” and not be immediately disqualified from holding office–since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the “under God” part wasn’t added until the 1950s–while believing that reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school requires it), is a dangerous and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals.
* White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you. White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto was “Alaska first,” and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you’re black and your spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she’s being disrespectful.
* White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do–like, among other things, fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor–and people think you’re being pithy and tough, but if you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college–you’re somehow being mean, or even sexist.
* White privilege is being able to convince white women who don’t even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your running mate anyway, because all of a sudden your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a “second look.”
* White privilege is being able to fire people who didn’t support your political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago means you must be corrupt.
* White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God’s punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you’re just a good church-going Christian, but if you’re black and friends with a black pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you’re an extremist who probably hates America.
* White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a “trick question,” while being black and merely refusing to give one-word answers to the queries of Bill O’Reilly means you’re dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.
* White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being black and experiencing racism is, as Sarah Palin has referred to it a “light” burden.
* And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could possibly allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing, people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because white voters aren’t sure about that whole “change” thing. Ya know, it’s just too vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which is very concrete and certain.

White privilege is, in short, the problem.

Tim Wise is the author of White Like Me (Soft Skull, 2005, revised 2008), and of Speaking Treason Fluently, publishing this month, also by Soft Skull. For review copies or interview requests, please reply to publicity@softskull.com

Submitted by meadandale on November 8, 2008 - 10:31pm.

White privilege is being able to write crap like that for a living and then being touted as an 'anti-racism' author.

Give me a freaking break. He'd have more credibility if he applied his brush EVENLY across the political spectrum rather than using race as a pretext for slamming the Republican ticket.

Simply sickening....

Submitted by Trojan4Life on November 8, 2008 - 10:35pm.


Well said...from a guy who had the good fortune to be born white in America!

Submitted by NotCranky on November 8, 2008 - 11:29pm.

Well Trojan. It showed up in my wife's in box and I am playing along with the thread. People can see what they want in it. You have to admit when blacks said this type of thing, when it was patently true, they got shouted down. Maybe you have to be white to say it or else leave it to a jerk like Spike Lee. Anyway, there is a really significant rebuttal to the article, Obama won.

Submitted by afx114 on November 8, 2008 - 11:55pm.

I can't even tell you how many conservative forwards I received from my conservative family members this political season. Lots of "AMERICA FUCK YAH!" style forwards, tons of Jesus forwards, tons of Obama's a Muslim that is going to take your money and kill your babies forwards... I got the works this year coming from the right. I never got one single Obama email from my liberal friends.

Facebook, however, is another story. Status updates clearly show what political spectrum your friends belong to.

To the younger generation, email is considered archaic. It's all about blogs, social networks, status updates, and txt messages nowadays. That's how under-25'ers communicate.

Submitted by Coronita on November 9, 2008 - 12:52am.

I got this one as spam in my email today.... Oh boy...Again..... OBAMA WON... GET OVER IT...

Democrats Wreck Bull Market
Biden Refuses To Answer Wealth Redistribution-Marxist Questions

"When I think about things when the lights are out and I'm tossing and turning in bed, it's how do we make sure we fulfill the commitments to the American people that we've made throughout this campaign." – President Elec. Barrack Obama

At the end of 2002, shareholder wealth stood at $10.075 trillion. After cutting the capital gains tax from 20% to 15% and the dividends tax from 38.1% to 15%, shareholder wealth grew all the way to a peak of $17.294 trillion in 2007. Estimates now put shareholder wealth at about $12 trillion.

So, when the Republican Congress cut investor tax rates, $7 trillion of shareholder wealth was created—a gain of 70 percent. When Pelosi, Reid, and Obama took over, $5 trillion of shareholder wealth was lost—a decline of 30%.

If you want your 401(k) or other retirement plans to grow, your best bet is a Republican Congress that will cut nest egg tax rates and keep them low. When Democrats are in charge, markets price in expected tax increases.

Obama needs to redistribute YOUR wealth to honor his Campaign Promises

The public outcry of real Americans like you and Joe the Plumber is finally getting some light shed on Mr. Obama's wealth redistribution agenda supported by Socialist Democrats in Congress. The corrupt media can't hide it any longer. The plan is to bring an end to the America we know and love; to bring an end to freedom and liberty.

They want total control of what you see, hear, think, and do. They will stop at nothing. NOW, they are aiming at your 401k and other retirement plans and they are going for the kill.

Democrats Target Your 401k Retirement Plan with Taxes

Yes that's right, Liberals in government want to seize these assets for their own. Can you hear them laughing. Just look at what James Pethokoukis, the money and politics blogger for U.S. News & World Report has said:

In place of 401(k) plans, she would have workers transfer their dough into government-created "guaranteed retirement accounts" for every worker. The government would deposit $600 (inflation indexed) every year into the GRAs. Each worker would also have to save 5 percent of pay into the accounts, to which the government would pay a measly 3 percent return. Rep. Jim McDermott, a Democrat from Washington and chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee's Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, said that since "the savings rate isn't going up for the investment of $80 billion [in 401(k) tax breaks], we have to start to think about whether or not we want to continue to invest that $80 billion for a policy that's not generating what we now say it should."

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In 1994, Republicans took over both Houses of Congress. Government spending restraint and a capital gains tax cut followed. Shareholder wealth grew from $5.7 trillion at the end of 1994 to $15.4 trillion at the end of 2000.

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Submitted by afx114 on November 9, 2008 - 1:01am.

I got this one yesterday, it's great!

The Tax Poem

At first I thought this was funny...then I realized the awful truth of it.
Be sure to read all the way to the end! Who knows what's next............

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts anyway!

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
'Taxes drove me
to my doom...'

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge T ax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax


Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most
prosperous in the world.

We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middleclass in the
world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What in the hell happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'

And I still have to 'press 1' for English !?!?!?!?

I hope this goes around THE USA at least 100 times!!!!! YOU can help it
get there!!!!


Submitted by CostaMesa on November 9, 2008 - 7:24am.

I got at least four intensely rightwing emails a day, everyday from well over a year ago until the day of the election. About a third were blatantly racist bits about how we couldn't let a ******* control us.

If only to see the people who sent me that crap have to sit with themselves, I'm glad that McC lost. Somehow, those people just don't understand how deeply they offended me.

THe really sad thing is that these same people are now going on the attack again - but in a more surreptitious way. We've got Weimar cancer, folks.

Submitted by Arraya on November 9, 2008 - 7:39am.

THe really sad thing is that these same people are now going on the attack again - but in a more surreptitious way. We've got Weimar cancer, folks.

That is so true and winning the presidency will end up being the booby prize for the Ds. The inertia of the economic storm will crush Obama within a year. Unfortunately he was put in such a position of having to use federal government intervention that he will live up to the fears of the Rs as being "socialist". People will quickly forget that Bushco started the wave of statism and set the stage for massive amounts of USG intervention.

During the depression 50% of the populace lived on family farms, think about that. We are facing unemployment of that magnitude and without the family farm factor we are facing a much bigger problem than we had in the 30s.

Submitted by sdduuuude on November 9, 2008 - 2:46pm.

White privlege is being able to say "boy, I am thrilled we have a black president so we don't have to hear any more of this crap about white privlege any more."

Submitted by fredo4 on November 10, 2008 - 12:04am.

Sing it bro! (sdduuude)

Submitted by kicksavedave on November 10, 2008 - 11:41am.

fat_lazy_union_worker wrote:
I got this one as spam in my email today.... Oh boy...Again..... OBAMA WON... GET OVER IT...

In 2001, Democrats took the Senate when Jim Jeffords switched parties. Shareholder wealth fell from $15.4 trillion at the end of 2000 to $10 trillion at the end of 2002—a nosedive of 50%.

How can anyone read or even write something like this with a straight face? Its beyond absurdity to suggest that one single senator's seat has this much influence over the Dow and S&P in this manner.

I got so much crap right wing emails from this one guy, stuff suggesting Obama was being financed by Hammas and other ridiculous notions. I got fed up and sent one back to the distribution list that was an obvious farce that stated that "McCain admits he bangs chickens". I thought it was funny, so did some of the other people on the list.

But one random dude on the list started responding to me threatening to kick my ass if I ever sent another unsolicited email into his home. Calling me a retarded Obama lover and other cute things.

Bottom line, I think this election cycle has made a lot of people borderline insane.

Sadly I expect the next one to be even worse.

Submitted by fredo4 on November 10, 2008 - 11:55am.

There are mental patients on both sides- I'm just really glad this election is over.

Submitted by Allan from Fallbrook on November 10, 2008 - 12:03pm.

fredo4: Amen, brother.

Submitted by fredo4 on November 10, 2008 - 12:28pm.

I'm a girl, but Amen to you too.

Submitted by Allan from Fallbrook on November 10, 2008 - 12:55pm.

fredo4: I am so sorry. Sincerely. Saw the "Fredo" and assumed, and you know what happens when you assume.

Well, then: Amen, sister? That work?

Submitted by afx114 on November 10, 2008 - 12:56pm.

I know it was you Fredo. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!

Submitted by Allan from Fallbrook on November 10, 2008 - 1:13pm.

afx: Well done! A "Godfather" reference, no less! Well, you might be a crazy libbie (said respectfully, of course), but you have an excellent grasp of arcana.

Submitted by fredo4 on November 10, 2008 - 5:44pm.

Fredo was just misunderstood

Submitted by sdduuuude on November 10, 2008 - 6:00pm.

She's a woman trapped in a man's username.

Submitted by Arraya on November 10, 2008 - 6:00pm.

Bottom line, I think this election cycle has made a lot of people borderline insane.

I don't think we have reached peak insanity yet. We are getting close though.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...
-Hunter S. Thompson

Submitted by Brutus on November 10, 2008 - 8:13pm.

White privilege? Damn! Where can I get some?

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