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Submitted by moneymaker on June 30, 2011 - 8:23am

Ok I'm going shopping for tires and it occurred to me that my last set of Yokohamas was made in the USA, should I make sure my next set of tires are American made? Thank god for the internet. Without the internet it would be a formidible task to insure my next set of tires are American made. I think other countries around the world have a strong sense of national pride and tend to buy their nations products so why don't we? I would be against trade tariffs or any government intervention but I think we citizens need to be more acutely aware of where the things we buy come from and do our best to support our "local" economy. By the way this set of 4 tires will probably be around $1000, so I think that is a significant purchase.

Submitted by jpinpb on June 30, 2011 - 8:37am.

I have continued my endeavor to try to buy American, or at a minimum not MIC since I started that thread a while back. It is a lot of work to buy American and most people won't do it and give up. I found I've saved a lot of money and it has me reconsidering certain purchases, especially impulse ones. I've gone to great lengths to try to buy American in the remodel. It's been a challenge. Good for you for attempting to get tires here.

Submitted by briansd1 on June 30, 2011 - 9:45am.

I don't see the point of buying small consumer stuff made in America. A product is a product, regardless of where it's made.

I think that Adam Smith observed that we are better off buying Porto wine from Portugal and trading them clothing manufactured in England. What's the point of trying to make wine in England, if the Portuguese can make it better and cheaper?

I think that we should make high-value products in America such as high-speed trains and solar arrays. But we are ceding those to China because we don't have an industrial policy (unlike the Germans, French, Chinese, Koreans, Taiwanese, etc....)

San Francisco bridge made in China:

The project is part of China’s continual move up the global economic value chain — from cheap toys to Apple iPads to commercial jetliners — as it aims to become the world’s civil engineer.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/busine...

Submitted by Coronita on June 30, 2011 - 10:11am.

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Ok I'm going shopping for tires and it occurred to me that my last set of Yokohamas was made in the USA, should I make sure my next set of tires are American made?

Good luck with that one.....
Take your pick.....

1. The only 2 U.S. tire companies left (for practical uses) are
Goodyear Tires, Cooper Tires (which owns Avon Tires).
but neither of them manufacture all their tires in the U.S.

You can add two more companies for non-practical applications
*Hoosier (track tires)
*Titan (off road tires)
...but I doubt you will be using tires from either companies.

The remainder of manufacturers look like this....

1. Yokohama is a Japanese company, as well as Bridgestone/Firestone

2. Dunlop is British company that is 75% owned by Goodyear and 25% owned by Sumitomo Tires

3. Sumitomo Tires is a Japanese tire company that has purchased the right to sell tires with the Dunlop brand... It also owns Falken Tires, which is based in the U.S.

4. Michelin is a French company that also owns BF Goodrich (and as a result produces tires of both brands in both U.S. and foreign facilities)

5. Continental is a German company with manufacturing all over, including U.S. and China

6. Pirelli is an Italian company with manufacturing all over too

7. Hankook Tires is a Korean company with manufacturing all over

8. Nexen is a Korean company

9. General Tire is an Indian company

10. Toyo is a Japanese company

I think you're better off buying the best performing tire your money is worth imho.

FWIW: I've had pretty good experiences with Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 for most of summer/fall/spring and Michelin Pilot A/S Plus as a general all season (can get buy as a *light* snow tire if you have AWD)

The other thing I use to run were Continental Sports Contact 2 as a summer/fall/spring tire (I didn't like).
And the Continental Extreme Contact for winter (Which were ok, but squealed a lot).

You probably don't need two sets of tires down here, because the likelihood of you needing tires with snow traction is almost 0 unless you like to ski a lot... It helps if you're up in the bay area and want to go to Tahoe a lot.

I ran a set of for a brief 3 months BF Goodrich (I forget what they were), but they were ridiculously crappy.... They were cheap (in cost) and as a result, cheap quality too..

Runflats also suck btw....

Submitted by moneymaker on July 2, 2011 - 6:45am.

Excellent post flu. The Yokohamas that I bought were to replace runflats that cost a hell of a lot more and gave a horrible ride. I don't care really who owns the company but more which plant actually produced them. The Yokohamas were made here in the US, I didn't realize this until after I bought them so it was not a factor in the decision making process. Now however I have a 4x4 that uses bigger tires and I don't have to replace them immediately,before winter begins however. I was considering Costco,who gives $70 back on set of 4 Michellin but won't do it for BFGoodrich which is owned by Michellin. In my reasearch I'm discovering that Costco does not have the best prices.

Submitted by ucodegen on June 30, 2011 - 4:05pm.

threadkiller wrote:
Now however I have a 4x4 that uses bigger tires and I don't have to repace them immediately,before winter begins however. I was considering Costco,who gives $70 back on set of 4 Michellin but won't do it for BFGoodrich which is owned by Michellin. In my reasearch I'm discovering that Costco does not have the best prices.

Discount Tire seems to be the best for BF Goodrich. I even checked against 4x4 discounters. I recently had to re-shoe my truck(as well as get new rims because the 16.5 rim is no longer supported). I ended up doing a lot of pricing research in the process. I would not do the Discount Tire at Genesee (the store manager seemed to want to tack on as many additional charges, including ones that I have not been charge for before @ at Discount Tire), but I have had good luck at their Convoy shop, and have gotten most of my tires (truck and car) over at the Miramar shop.

With Discount Tire, you can do on-line price estimation and set up appt. to install. They will contact you back if there is a problem getting your tires. (http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/home.do)

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 30, 2011 - 5:48pm.

while i am a frugal fellow, I believe in quality tires, expense be damned, and especially for bicycles, but also for cars. tires matter.

Submitted by ocrenter on June 30, 2011 - 7:50pm.

did some comparison on tire pricing recently. Bear's Tires in Miramar came in quite well. In and out very quickly as well.

Submitted by outtamojo on July 2, 2011 - 4:14am.

Speaking of Discount Tire...$100 rebate must act fast http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findPro...

Submitted by Coronita on July 2, 2011 - 5:33pm.

Check the date on the tire. Tires have a shelf life of 6-7 years and some places don't care

Submitted by moneymaker on July 15, 2011 - 4:35am.

Yes the shelf life is a major factor in why I'm pulling the trigger on tires now. My current tires have tread left (less than 40,000 miles on them I think) but are 6 years old. Needless to say I don't drive the 4x4 much. When pulling a 6,000 lb boat up a boat ramp it is probably a good idea to not have old hard tires with little tread. So I decided to go with Costco after all. They are giving $100 back and I was able to get Bridgestones which are made in CA. Now admittedly CA is Canada but atleast they are North American made tires.

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