Trump presidency predictions

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Submitted by zk on December 8, 2016 - 2:37pm

Let's hear your predictions for trump's presidency. In 4 (or, god forbid, 8) years, we'll see who was right. Some of my predictions are on these threads:

http://piggington.com/its_bad_day_human_...

http://piggington.com/ot_predictions_201...

and I'll make some more here soon.

In the mean time, if any of you trump voters are actually bold enough to predict good things, let's see it right here where we can all access it in 4 years.

Submitted by svelte on February 16, 2017 - 9:14pm.

I'm beginning to wonder if Howard Stern is right - the office will be terrible for Trump's mental health. Stern submits that Trump has a strong desire to be liked and all of the darts that are shot at the President - any president, R or D - will send him tumbling over the edge.

What Stern says kind of makes sense. It would explain the ultra bully persona and love of rallies surrounded by his faithful and adoring fans.

Submitted by zk on February 16, 2017 - 9:30pm.

svelte wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if Howard Stern is right - the office will be terrible for Trump's mental health. Stern submits that Trump has a strong desire to be liked and all of the darts that are shot at the President - any president, R or D - will send him tumbling over the edge.

What Stern says kind of makes sense. It would explain the ultra bully persona and love of rallies surrounded by his faithful and adoring fans.

I agree. I just hope that if he snaps completely, he doesn't take the country (or the world) down with him.

Submitted by zk on February 16, 2017 - 9:35pm.

trump's pick for national security adviser turned down the job. His announcement said it was basically for personal reasons, but apparently he wasn't guaranteed the freedom from political interference that he insisted on.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/ro...

You gotta figure that trump's not going to budge on that, and whoever ends up taking the job will be nothing but a stooge. I hope I'm wrong, because that would be exceedingly dangerous. Especially with Bannon completely running the show.

Submitted by all on February 17, 2017 - 9:29am.

svelte wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if Howard Stern is right - the office will be terrible for Trump's mental health. Stern submits that Trump has a strong desire to be liked and all of the darts that are shot at the President - any president, R or D - will send him tumbling over the edge.

What Stern says kind of makes sense. It would explain the ultra bully persona and love of rallies surrounded by his faithful and adoring fans.

He is used to people trying to guess what he wants and bending over to fulfill his overt and covert desires.
He must be feeling very disrespected now when he is being challenged by all kinds of people. Not just wealthy competitors, but also disabled journalists, poorly educated whites, even illegal immigrants.
You get to be the president and all of the sudden everybody feels free to argue with you. Maddening.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on February 17, 2017 - 10:48am.

I am supposed to smell the roses more... but it's too interesting I can't turn away.

Like Trump says, forget about second hand reports, just watch Trump.

I watched the whole news conference while making dinner las night. OMG, all the stuff Trump says. it's incredible! The guy is a whackjob.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct0H_ndjavM

Some of the things i remember:
Trump said that he "fired" (he used the word) Mike Flynn. There are conflicting accounts from the White House that Flynn tendered his resignation.

Trump lied about his electoral college margin again. He was even corrected by a reporter.

The White House is a "fine tuned machine" according to Trump.

Trump a lot of time to watch TV apparently. He must be bored.

Trump said that Obamacare repeal will be submitted in March, before tax reform.

He say if there'll be a response to recent Russian provocations.

Trump is still obsessed with Hillary. He mentioned her many times.

Trump actually gave Obama a break. He said that the country was divided long before Obama.

Oh, I really miss Professor Obama. I enjoyed his detailed answers and nuances.

Submitted by svelte on February 17, 2017 - 4:54pm.

FlyerInHi wrote:

I watched the whole news conference while making dinner las night. OMG, all the stuff Trump says. it's incredible! The guy is a whackjob.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct0H_ndjavM

There was a point - I think it was late Dec or early Jan - where he started acting Presidential. I started to believe he had just been putting on an act during the campaign.

Well, it didn't take long for the real Donald to re-appear.

Does anybody know what the procedure is to declare a president mentally unfit? I know we aren't there yet, but I am really concerned it may come down to that. We're only a month into his term and look what has transpired so far.

On a side note, one of my Republican friends posted today a photo of Lucy from "I love Lucy" making one of her classic stunned faces with the caption "the moment you realize this IS your circus and those ARE your monkeys". It may be starting to dawn on some folks what a mistake they've made...

Submitted by harvey on February 17, 2017 - 6:13pm.

svelte wrote:
There was a point - I think it was late Dec or early Jan - where he started acting Presidential. I started to believe he had just been putting on an act during the campaign.

There was a point where many of us were optimistic that he would understand what being president meant. If he has ever acted like a president it must have been a very fleeting moment. I admit that I can't take my eyes of this shitshow. And I never saw that moment.

Quote:
Does anybody know what the procedure is to declare a president mentally unfit?

There is none. There is impeachment and there are elections.

One thing that amazed me during the election is that many folks just brushed off his eccentric behavior saying that "checks and balances" will keep him in line. It's true that there are checks and balances but they are blunt instruments and meant to be a last resort. Even if 99% of Americans decide that he's unfit there's nothing that can happen until the next election. To be impeached he has to commit a crime, which means the best-case scenario is that he commits an impeachable offense that doesn't do too much harm. And then the Republican congress would have to actually go through with it...

Or maybe he'll suddenly grow the fuck up. Some are still hoping for that, but any mature adult knows that 180 degree changes in character don't happen to 70 year-old men.

In the meantime he's the most powerful person on earth, one of the most powerful that has ever lived. And there's no undo button.

Submitted by zk on February 17, 2017 - 7:34pm.

svelte wrote:

On a side note, one of my Republican friends posted today a photo of Lucy from "I love Lucy" making one of her classic stunned faces with the caption "the moment you realize this IS your circus and those ARE your monkeys". It may be starting to dawn on some folks what a mistake they've made...

I hope that's what he meant. Most trump supporters, from what I can gather, seem to think he's doing a great job. Are you sure he didn't think all the people who are terrified and up in arms about trump were the monkeys? Was he/she a trump supporter?

Submitted by FlyerInHi on February 17, 2017 - 9:50pm.

zk, I see the same among Trump supporters. They see nothing wrong. And, just like Trump, they keep on blaming the dishonest press.

I never liked Trump and watched the whole presser to educate myself. Just watch what Trump says without media analysis and decide for yourself!

Svelte said something about education... I used to also think that education eventually wins over. I'm kinda depressed about our country. Are we really the first among nations like we claim to be? Are our people that dumb?

Submitted by AN on February 17, 2017 - 10:57pm.

FlyerInHi wrote:
Are our people that dumb?
Yes they are.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on February 18, 2017 - 12:18am.

According to the 25th amendment, the VP and a majority of the cabinet can declare the president unfit

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-f...

Submitted by FlyerInHi on February 18, 2017 - 4:44pm.

Apparenltly white working class men are suffering "death of despair" en masse. No wonder they don't give a shit and voted for Trump.

https://youtu.be/KG4USJgZhoc

So rather than helping with good health care, and looking at what went wrong with our system, Trump is blaming Mexicans and the inner cities for the optic epidemic (listen to press conference where he claims that drugs are cheaper than candy bars). So much easier and convenient. In the meantime, people can cure themselves of addiction.

Submitted by zk on February 20, 2017 - 3:54pm.

"[Congressional republicans] need Trump to pass their agenda of rewriting the tax code in favor of the rich and of gutting regulations that protect the public and the planet—an agenda that a majority of Americans never supported"

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/0...

Trump didn't run on the above. The people didn't vote for the above. Yet the above seems to be on the agenda. Why? Is it because trump actually doesn't give a damn about anything but his own glorification, and therefore will let congress do what they want while he yells and struts and says he's great? Not a rhetorical question. I'm not saying that's why. I'm trying to understand why.

Submitted by no_such_reality on February 21, 2017 - 8:38am.

We've become our own banana republic.

Submitted by harvey on February 21, 2017 - 9:23am.

McMaster has an impressive resume, and it seems unlikely he'll be a yes-man to Trump:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powe...

It will be interesting to see how their relationship develops.

Submitted by zk on February 21, 2017 - 2:47pm.

harvey wrote:
McMaster has an impressive resume, and it seems unlikely he'll be a yes-man to Trump:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powe...

It will be interesting to see how their relationship develops.

Interesting, indeed. Let's hope for the best.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on February 21, 2017 - 3:50pm.

harvey wrote:
McMaster has an impressive resume, and it seems unlikely he'll be a yes-man to Trump:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powe...

It will be interesting to see how their relationship develops.

I like that McMaster is an academic in addition to militiary.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on February 25, 2017 - 10:57am.

I'm having fun watching Trump voters staging boycotts of stores that pulled the ivanka line.

Ivanka dresses are work or evening wear. What woman would wear that brand? So I'm not surprised sales fell.

Trump supporters are now boycotting Nordstrom. Ha, like they shopped there to begin with.

I read ivanka perfume is a best seller on Amazon. That'll enrich Jeff bezos, the owner of the Washington Post.

Submitted by zk on March 3, 2017 - 10:06am.

I think that trump thinks that he can just say, "do it our way or fuck you" to the rest of the world, and the rest of the world will respond with, "oh my god! We better do it their way!"

That seems to be his idea of "America first."

The state department, with all its experience in international affairs, knows that won't work. So trump wants to cut them out of the loop.

https://www.theatlantic.com/internationa...

That won't end well.

Submitted by harvey on March 3, 2017 - 5:00pm.

The implication built into his "America first" rhetoric is that for a long time no president has been acting in America's best interest - that all the trade deals, regulations, and foreign policy decisions in the past several decades were intended as giveaways to the rest of the world.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on March 3, 2017 - 5:20pm.

ZK, i agree, it will not end well. Trump doesn't understand that soft power and commercial ties are more powerful than the military. We are alienating our friends who are now falling in the arms of China for trade reasons. Meanwhile we are fighting ennemies of our own creation. Trump wants the population to be very afraid so they continue to support him.

This is not like voting for Bush. I will never forgive Trump supporters. It turns out that Americans are just as gullible as Russians who support Putin. Freedom my ass! They just want an authoritarian to stroke their wounded egos. They take pride in feeling badass, never mind that they are impoverishing themselves and all of us.

So the retaliations are starting. The EU votes to end visa free travel for Americans. For those of us who travel, an American passport lost value. A Canadian passport has been superior for international travel since 2001.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...

Submitted by FlyerInHi on March 4, 2017 - 10:50am.

Trump is a whackjob just like his supporters. Always feeling entitled to a certain lifestyle, thinking they are being wronged, and despite plenty of advantages, never ever taking responsibility.

If Obama had such great powers as president as to wiretap Trump tower, Trump has the same powers today. Trump is president for god's sake. He should stop thinking people are out to get him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...

Submitted by zk on March 13, 2017 - 10:40am.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/tr...

I'm not sure how one could be at all informed and not come to the conclusion that Donald J. Trump is a loser, but to read that article and still not see that is ridiculous.

I used to think that trump really had his finger on the desires and beliefs of his followers. That he wise to all the right-wing media manipulation that goes on and that he was using it to his advantage to further manipulate those idiots into continuing to follow him. It's obvious to me now that he actually believes all that ludicrous drivel. He isn't a leader of idiots, like most leaders. He is an idiot.

What a pathetic excuse for a human being you idiots have elected president.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on March 13, 2017 - 3:32pm.

ZK, Trump is the typical patriarch wackjob. Because he's rich and powerful people can't say NO to him. You see that within families also -- the patriarch business owner who berates his employees, bullies his business partners, maninpulates his family, etc... A demanding, controlling, insecure piece of shit. A man fixated on his own ego, incapable of intellectual growth.

People like Trump are nothing without money and power.

Submitted by zk on March 14, 2017 - 7:15am.

FlyerInHi wrote:

People like Trump are nothing without money and power.

It's interesting to picture drumpf without the money and power. I highly doubt anyone would take him the least bit seriously. People would recognize the toxicity of his... of him. They would mostly stay away from him and laugh at him. He'd be the guy talking about that one time he made a great play when he was on the high school baseball team. Over and over. Bragging about that one hot girl he says he got in college. Over and over. That guy whose actual self was comically dwarfed by his opinion of himself. Driving people away with his neediness, self-centeredness, pushiness, stupidity and ignorance.

It wouldn't even occur to people to say, "imagine how fucked we'd be if that clown were president." Because it would never occur to anybody as conceivable that such a person could be elected president. But there he is. There's that buffoon, that clown, that pathetic joke, right there in the oval office. That laughable bozo is the face of our country.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on March 20, 2017 - 9:40am.

Here's a very good article on how Trump will hurt his very supporters who are too stupid to realize it. Meanwhile his supporters are rationalizing that the "deep state" is hurting them and their man.

Screwed up people only screw themselves in the end. I hope they can eat nationalism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plu...

American born doctors don't want to practice in podunks so the government actually tries to bring physicians there. Really? Why pick winners and losers. The marketplace should take care of itself.

The Delta Doctors program has placed more than 500 U.S.-trained, foreign-born physicians from many different parts of the world — Latin America, Asia, the Indian subcontinent — in clinics throughout the region, largely in red states such as Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri and Alabama’s Black Belt, the group says. It has placed more than 80 in 2016 alone. One medical professional can go a long way.

Submitted by zk on March 29, 2017 - 10:54pm.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Congressional republicans are pathetic cowards. They'd rather risk ruining this country than put a scratch in their chance of reelection. Selfish bastards.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_p...

Submitted by FlyerInHi on March 30, 2017 - 9:41am.

zk wrote:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Congressional republicans are pathetic cowards. They'd rather risk ruining this country than put a scratch in their chance of reelection. Selfish bastards.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_p...

Zk, congressional replublicans respond to their voters.

And why do those imbeciles vote the way they do? And why do we countenance them instead of pointing out their stupidity?

To me, any person who voted for Trump without a good rationale is dumb and should be treated as such. If one is rich and wants lower taxes, then fine. But if one is just angry, then that person is plain stupid for voting Trump.

Here's an article from wapo. Rural whites are the worse deadbeats. But they voted for Trump, wtf!?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2...

David Frum said they are so screwed up and unhappy that they have nothing else to lose. They want to blow up the system to stick it to the "snobs", the snobs being happy, educated people who have their lives together.

Submitted by zk on April 4, 2017 - 11:13am.

zk wrote:
I predict that the shrinking of the middle class will accelerate.

I predict the lower-middle class, working class, and poor will all be economically worse off.

Trump promises to bring back jobs to the middle class. His policies will have the opposite effect. He'll hurt unions, which will hurt the middle class. He may cause a trade war, which would hurt the middle class. His lowering of corporate taxes will do nothing for the middle class; it will only help raise corporate profits and widen the gap between worker pay and ceo pay. Health insurance will be more burdensome for the lower middle class and poorer. If he is successful in screwing with medicare (which I predict he will try to do), that will really hurt the lower middle class and poorer.

I predict that international relations will suffer. Possibly a trade war, possibly conflicts over Syria, isis, and North Korea, and with Russia and China.

I predict that he will repeatedly act poorly in response to insults/negative comments, resulting in friction between him/his administration and many other entities: foreign countries, senators, congressman, governors, corporations, unions, government agencies, individuals, etc. And I predict that this friction will, in many cases, result in harm to our country and its people.

I predict he won't build the wall that he promised, and that whatever pale shadow of that wall he does get built, if any, will not be paid for by Mexico.

I predict that the deplorable tenor he has brought to our national discourse will continue for a couple years, until cooler heads prevail, the tide turns against that kind of talk, he's no longer cheered for it, and trump himself reins it in. But the damage is done.

I predict more made-for-tv deals like the Carrier one. I predict that they will have negligible effect on anything, except distracting from the real economic issues at hand.

I predict that America's standing in the world will suffer. We may even no longer be looked at as the leaders of the free world (an outdated term, but that's what we're seen as).

I predict that he will continue to lie about easily-verifiable things, and this will cost him credibility around the world, as people learn to doubt anything he says.

I predict that his selection of morons like Ben Carson, scary fucks like Jeff Sessions, lunatics like Michael Flynn, and other assorted jackasses/losers, along with his reliance on family and those who have been loyal to him (regardless of their other merits - or lack thereof) will result in a general condition of infighting, incompetence, conflict, and malevolence in the trump administration.

I predict that the right-wing media will either blame all this on the "liberals," or they'll say everything is great, despite it not being great. I predict that trump supporters will buy whichever b.s. they decide to go with.

That's most of it.

I'm hanging it out there, trump supporters. You can point to all this in 4 years and tell me how wrong I am, if I am (I hope I am).

One more: I predict that no trump supporters will have the guts to make any substantive, positive predictions about trump's presidency.

We're two and a half months into con man don's disgraceful presidency, and most of these pretty-obvious-to-anyone-not-brainwashed-by-right-wing-media predictions are already coming true.

What a surprise.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 6, 2017 - 2:44pm.

Zk, how would you view people who knew what Trump is all about but sold their souls for pet issues such as health care, China, etc... in the end Trump will screw them.

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