Trump presidency predictions

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Submitted by zk on December 8, 2016 - 2:37pm

Let's hear your predictions for trump's presidency. In 4 (or, god forbid, 8) years, we'll see who was right. Some of my predictions are on these threads:

http://piggington.com/its_bad_day_human_...

http://piggington.com/ot_predictions_201...

and I'll make some more here soon.

In the mean time, if any of you trump voters are actually bold enough to predict good things, let's see it right here where we can all access it in 4 years.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on December 10, 2016 - 11:51pm.

bought some collard greens for 3.00 and nice bread from farmers mkt. made some cocktails w fresh grapefruit juice from free grapefruits that roll down the street off the groves by my house

cost of living is low. std is pretty hi.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on December 10, 2016 - 11:52pm.

spdrun wrote:
Note that marrying well doesn't mean marrying someone who you think might please your family. Ignore race and class, go with someone who you love, are compatible with, and is a decent human being.

im reading anna karenina now. ill get back 2 u on this when im done

Submitted by flu on December 11, 2016 - 12:02am.

Speaking of Trump... I was chuckling at his comment when he saw the pricetag for Air Force One...


"Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. Cancel order!"

Lol...

Ah yes...That pretty much sums up the conudrum of products for american consumers....

1. Either the american product is going to be more expensive (sometimes considerably more) and alienate some potential customers, no matter how patriotic they claim they are

or

2. The product from the american company is not going to be completely made in america

or

3. The product from the american company is not going to be completely made with american labor

or

4. The product made in america sold at a cheap cost will need a government subsidy

or

5. The company that made the product in america with american labor, sold at a cheap cost, without a government subsidy, will go out of business.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on December 11, 2016 - 8:56am.

flu wrote:
Speaking of Trump... I was chuckling at his comment when he saw the pricetag for Air Force One...


"Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. Cancel order!"

Lol...

Ah yes...That pretty much sums up the conudrum of products for american consumers....

1. Either the american product is going to be more expensive (sometimes considerably more) and alienate some potential customers, no matter how patriotic they claim they are

or

2. The product from the american company is not going to be completely made in america

or

3. The product from the american company is not going to be completely made with american labor

or

4. The product made in america sold at a cheap cost will need a government subsidy

or

5. The company that made the product in america with american labor, sold at a cheap cost, without a government subsidy, will go out of business.

true story. i was online shopping for a stovetop potato baker. choices:

12.00 free ship. china.

149.95 plus ship. nade in indiana, usa.

its reallly hard to pay 12x as much.

even old models on ebay are more than new from china

Submitted by zk on December 11, 2016 - 11:26am.

I predict trump will continue to create his own alternate reality (denying, for instance, anything the CIA or any other agency says that he doesn't like), and that his idiot followers will believe that his "reality" is actual reality.

Submitted by flu on December 11, 2016 - 12:12pm.

zk wrote:
I predict trump will continue to create his own alternate reality (denying, for instance, anything the CIA or any other agency says that he doesn't like), and that his idiot followers will believe that his "reality" is actual reality.

It's time to come to terms with the reality. Might as well try to profit off of it. At the end of 4 years populists probably won't be better off. But you certainly can be.

Time to start thinking for yourself and your family.

Don't fall down..

Just think of this in terms of third person narrative. This is of comic proportions.

We will settle somewhere in the .middle one of these days....

Just look at how BrExit is going. Talk about buyers remorse. They are already trying to redefine what NO means...like it doesn't necessarily mean "leaving the single market"

Submitted by zk on December 11, 2016 - 12:32pm.

flu wrote:
zk wrote:
I predict trump will continue to create his own alternate reality (denying, for instance, anything the CIA or any other agency says that he doesn't like), and that his idiot followers will believe that his "reality" is actual reality.

It's time to come to terms with the reality. Might as well try to profit off of it. At the end of 4 years populists probably won't be better off. But you certainly can be.

Time to start thinking for yourself and your family.

Don't fall down..

Just think of this in terms of third person narrative. This is of comic proportions.

We will settle somewhere in the .middle one of these days....

Just look at how BrExit is going. Talk about buyers remorse. They are already trying to redefine what NO means...like it doesn't necessarily mean "leaving the single market"

I'm definitely down with trying to profit. The effect that trump's erraticness, poor diplomacy, weak cabinet, incompetence, etc. will have on any particular investment seems hard to predict, though.

I'm open to suggestions.

If there was a "bet against the job prospects/real wages of working- and lower-middle-class Americans" investment, I'd put some money in that.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on December 11, 2016 - 1:01pm.

zk wrote:
flu wrote:
zk wrote:
I predict trump will continue to create his own alternate reality (denying, for instance, anything the CIA or any other agency says that he doesn't like), and that his idiot followers will believe that his "reality" is actual reality.

It's time to come to terms with the reality. Might as well try to profit off of it. At the end of 4 years populists probably won't be better off. But you certainly can be.

Time to start thinking for yourself and your family.

Don't fall down..

Just think of this in terms of third person narrative. This is of comic proportions.

We will settle somewhere in the .middle one of these days....

Just look at how BrExit is going. Talk about buyers remorse. They are already trying to redefine what NO means...like it doesn't necessarily mean "leaving the single market"

I'm definitely down with trying to profit. The effect that trump's erraticness, poor diplomacy, weak cabinet, incompetence, etc. will have on any particular investment seems hard to predict, though.

I'm open to suggestions.

If there was a "bet against the job prospects/real wages of working- and lower-middle-class Americans" investment, I'd put some money in that.

pvt prisons stock?

Submitted by flu on December 11, 2016 - 1:31pm.

Sorry zk.

I don't give financial advice anymore I've learned my lesson. And the worst thing that could possibly happen is that people I like actually listen to what I have to say and get screwed over for doing it.

Ping rich or some folks that know what they are doing.

Submitted by zk on December 11, 2016 - 2:34pm.

I hear ya, man.

Submitted by flu on December 12, 2016 - 9:13am.

Lol. Trump is complaining again that something made in the US costs too much...

F35 joint strike fighter.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/12/investin...

I sort of agree with him on this one.

Submitted by harvey on December 12, 2016 - 9:48am.

Of course the F-35 ridiculously over budget.

But kill the program and he kills far more jobs than he "saved" with the Carrier "deal."

Middle class welfare is a only good thing when it's his idea.

Submitted by AN on December 12, 2016 - 11:26am.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/12/investin...

Make inflation great again. Can we see the late 70s again? Damn, it would be my dreams come true.

Submitted by spdrun on December 12, 2016 - 11:30am.

You mean you want 10%+ interest rates on 30-year mortgages? LOL.

Remember that housing prices aren't included in core inflation.

Submitted by AN on December 12, 2016 - 12:08pm.

spdrun wrote:
You mean you want 10%+ interest rates on 30-year mortgages? LOL.

Remember that housing prices aren't included in core inflation.

What does core CPI have anything to do with the late 70s?

Submitted by spdrun on December 12, 2016 - 12:35pm.

What late 70s rates will do to housing won't be pretty. Core inflation doesn't predict what housing will do.

Housing went up in the 70s, but only in context. Late 60s, early 70s = riots, malaise, and war, which had a depressing effect on prices.

Be careful of what you wish for.

Submitted by AN on December 12, 2016 - 2:37pm.

spdrun wrote:
What late 70s rates will do to housing won't be pretty. Core inflation doesn't predict what housing will do.

Housing went up in the 70s, but only in context. Late 60s, early 70s = riots, malaise, and war, which had a depressing effect on prices.

Be careful of what you wish for.

Housing went up in in context but X, Y, Z had depressing effect on prices? So, what you're saying is, w/out X, Y, Z, prices would have gone up A LOT more? AWESOME.

Submitted by spdrun on December 12, 2016 - 2:51pm.

No, I'm saying that there were factors at the beginning of the decade that depressed housing prices that were fading away by the end.

Submitted by AN on December 12, 2016 - 3:14pm.

Where's your data about the depressed housing price? Here's the data from the census: https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/...

Median home value:
2000 1990 1980 1970 1960 1950 1940

United States $119,600 $79,100 $47,200 $17,000 $11,900 $7,354 $2,938
California $211,500 $195,500 $84,500 $23,100 $15,100 $9,564 $3,527

Submitted by spdrun on December 12, 2016 - 3:44pm.

Inflation-adjusted values were basically flat through the 60s. Also, "suburban flight" through the 60s and 70s was a big deal. Median may have gone up, but there were plenty of opportunities, like apartment buildings in NYC that couldn't practically be given away.

Remember that NYC was basically bankrupt through the late 70s.

Submitted by zk on December 12, 2016 - 8:10pm.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassi...

Interesting theory. Trump fucks over the whole country to make himself richer. Sounds about right.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on December 12, 2016 - 9:52pm.

i like the theory in this article [trump lets repubs do whatever they like, he enriches himself, tacit agreement not to dwell on conflicts of interest that could theoretially bring him down] because its based purely on greed and power, which feels,like it explains everything.

also, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. all done so beautifully out in the open. he TOLD us he manipulates the system for his benefit. man, its just too sweet.

. also makes me relax. trump will be focussed entirely on $ making, governing us is left to douchebag repubs.

not sure how to personally make $ off that...

Submitted by spdrun on December 12, 2016 - 9:57pm.

Problem is that a bunch of authoritarians running the show for at least two years has the potential to do a lot of damage. Other problem is that Trump has proven to be an authoritarian -- he'll likely intervene in ways that reduce civil liberties in the US.

OK, OK, there might be national concealed carry, but I consider 2A to be a very small part of personal liberty.

Submitted by moneymaker on December 12, 2016 - 10:12pm.

I give Trump a 30% chance of being a good president. Denim jeans at Costco for $9.97, bought 1 pair just to try them. Bake potato in microwave, toaster oven or oven why buy something else to bake a potato in scaredy?

Submitted by spdrun on December 12, 2016 - 10:15pm.

Scaredy is clearly a hipster removed from his natural habitat:

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/27/503489365/...

Submitted by scaredyclassic on December 12, 2016 - 10:26pm.

moneymaker wrote:
I give Trump a 30% chance of being a good president. Denim jeans at Costco for $9.97, bought 1 pair just to try them. Bake potato in microwave, toaster oven or oven why buy something else to bake a potato in scaredy?

crispier skin

Submitted by ltsdd on December 12, 2016 - 10:43pm.

AN wrote:
Where's your data about the depressed housing price? Here's the data from the census: https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/...

Median home value:
2000 1990 1980 1970 1960 1950 1940

United States $119,600 $79,100 $47,200 $17,000 $11,900 $7,354 $2,938
California $211,500 $195,500 $84,500 $23,100 $15,100 $9,564 $3,527

It looks pretty depressed from 1990 to 2000. Went up merely $16K (8%) for california for the whole 10 years. The rest of the other decades prices went up from 50% to >%300.

Submitted by AN on December 12, 2016 - 11:14pm.

spdrun wrote:
Inflation-adjusted values were basically flat through the 60s. Also, "suburban flight" through the 60s and 70s was a big deal. Median may have gone up, but there were plenty of opportunities, like apartment buildings in NYC that couldn't practically be given away.

Remember that NYC was basically bankrupt through the late 70s.

I don't care about inflation-adjusted. My mortgage is fixed, so why should I care about inflation adjusted value? However, even inflation-adjusted, home value went up about 20% from 60-70. Is 20% increase what you mean by basically flat?

Submitted by moneymaker on December 13, 2016 - 7:36am.

Maybe I should ask for a raise today.Based on ROI expectations I should be making 60% more than I am. But with rising health care costs and when I throw in benes maybe I'm pretty close to inflation. Paycheck has not kept up with the cost of health care and utilities. The city council is voting on their raise today, maybe I should too.

Submitted by grange9 on December 13, 2016 - 7:52am.

Void

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