Trump businesses - Would you support his businesses?

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Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 10, 2016 - 8:36pm

Looks like Trump brands are losing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...

I feel like there is now an ick factor to Trump products and services. I don't think younger customers want theTrump brand; in fact, there could be an aversion to it.

My prediction is that within 20 years, the Trump brand will be gone from all the buildings.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on August 10, 2016 - 10:58pm.

short Trump, if possible

Submitted by La Jolla Renter on August 11, 2016 - 8:11am.

Clue number one you are not onto something... Washington Post?

Maybe people are just not checking in because they don't want their bully lib friends to rip into them on facebook.

Even if it is true. It is just as likely his brand will come back stronger down the road, regardless of the election outcome.

Submitted by harvey on August 11, 2016 - 8:35am.

Among school-age kids, the Trump name has become a punchline. That can't be good for a brand in the long term.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 11, 2016 - 9:24am.

Washington Post is middle the road to me. It's fine if you want to argue it's leftist, but that would only be by your standards.

I've been to Trump Las Vegas and he doesn't even own it. The Trump properties in Atlantic City when he was involved were trash as is Atlantic City as a whole.

I was kinda excited with the renovation of the post office in DC because I like historic buildings. But now I wouldn't spend my money there.

Time will tell, but I doubt the Trump brand will survive the man.

Submitted by Rich Toscano on August 11, 2016 - 11:31am.

La Jolla Renter wrote:

Maybe people are just not checking in because they don't want their bully lib friends to rip into them on facebook.

Given that Trump's entire campaign (and for that matter worldview) is based on bullying, I guess I'm not that sympathetic.

Submitted by Rich Toscano on August 11, 2016 - 11:40am.

I remember when Trump first announced with his "Mexican rapists" speech, and Macy's announced they'd no longer sell his clothing line, I was surprised that he had a clothing line at all. Even before I learned that he's a bullying wanna-be fascist who can't spell, I always thought of him as the epitome of gaudy tastelessness. I mean, have you seen his apartment? It looks like Liberace huffed gold paint and threw up all over Tsar Nicholas II's summer home.

I couldn't imagine wearing a garment with his name on it, and that was before learning what a truly despicable person he is. Now that I know that, even if he had a business that appealed to me (which he doesn't because I'm not a fan of cheesy faux-opulence) I would never do business with it, just on principle.

So no, I wouldn't support a Trump business... I'd go very far out of my way to avoid it. I'm quite certain that I'm not alone.

Submitted by an on August 11, 2016 - 11:48am.

Rich Toscano wrote:
I remember when Trump first announced with his "Mexican rapists" speech, and Macy's announced they'd no longer sell his clothing line, I was surprised that he had a clothing line at all. Even before I learned that he's a bullying wanna-be fascist who can't spell, I always thought of him as the epitome of gaudy tastelessness. I mean, have you seen his apartment? It looks like Liberace huffed gold paint and threw up all over Tsar Nicholas II's summer home.

I couldn't imagine wearing a garment with his name on it, and that was before learning what a truly despicable person he is. Now that I know that, even if he had a business that appealed to me (which he doesn't because I'm not a fan of cheesy faux-opulence) I would never do business with it, just on principle.

So no, I wouldn't support a Trump business... I'd go very far out of my way to avoid it. I'm quite certain that I'm not alone.

You are not alone. I completely agree with everything you said.

Submitted by outtamojo on August 11, 2016 - 12:01pm.

La Jolla Renter wrote:
Clue number one you are not onto something... Washington Post?

Maybe people are just not checking in because they don't want their bully lib friends to rip into them on facebook.

Even if it is true. It is just as likely his brand will come back stronger down the road, regardless of the election outcome.

Why would anyone want a bully as a friend???

Submitted by svelte on August 11, 2016 - 5:10pm.

I've never considered buying anything Trump, watching anything Trump, or spending money in anything Trump ever. His campaign has simply reinforced my original course.

I remember a few months ago he claimed he had his pulse on the public because he listened to people at his rallies. Uh, no, you have your pulse on your supporters. That does not equate to the public. His poll numbers show I'm closer to being correct than he is.

Submitted by La Jolla Renter on August 11, 2016 - 5:20pm.

Come on, you don't have any friends that bully at times? Maybe even some on this site perhaps???

I have a few. I admit it, I would prefer to surf a crowded break with my buddy that is a bully in the water than with the ones who aren't. He bullies the bullies in a line up.

Submitted by La Jolla Renter on August 11, 2016 - 5:23pm.

Rich Toscano wrote:
I mean, have you seen his apartment? It looks like Liberace huffed gold paint and threw up all over Tsar Nicholas II's summer home.

So you don't like it???

Submitted by Rich Toscano on August 11, 2016 - 5:28pm.

Hahahaha... ;-)

Submitted by svelte on August 12, 2016 - 6:59am.

La Jolla Renter wrote:
Rich Toscano wrote:
I mean, have you seen his apartment? It looks like Liberace huffed gold paint and threw up all over Tsar Nicholas II's summer home.

So you don't like it???

Funny thing is, almost visible from the view in Trumps penthouse are the room displays in the Metropolitan Museum of Art. One of them is a fantastic Frank Lloyd Wright living room...just awesome. Then Trump builds that overwrought monstrosity just a few blocks away.

True it would have been odd for Trump to do a Prairie House living room in a modern design tower, but I would have hoped that a glimpse of good design would have encourage him to do similar good design in his place...especially considering how much he spent.

Submitted by ucodegen on August 13, 2016 - 12:28am.

La Jolla Renter wrote:
Clue number one you are not onto something... Washington Post?

Maybe people are just not checking in because they don't want their bully lib friends to rip into them on facebook.

Even if it is true. It is just as likely his brand will come back stronger down the road, regardless of the election outcome.


It looked like they did not count the Red States... Just the blue and ... purple? Though they claim all of US, I have doubts considering that the blue states and 'all' of the US have about equal behavior.

Submitted by ucodegen on August 13, 2016 - 1:01am.

Rich Toscano wrote:
I mean, have you seen his apartment? It looks like Liberace huffed gold paint and threw up all over Tsar Nicholas II's summer home.

I think it may be gold leaf - too reflective for paint.

I also wonder if some of that is pleasing Melania (maintenance requirements). I don't know if it is Trumps taste.. or hers. I do know that some other cultures have a much different view on what is 'stylish'.. I am having to deal with it myself. My S.O. like those heavy gaudy (gilded) picture frames - I'm minimist. She likes big gilded framed mirrors - me, not.

I have also seen it in the house that I grew up in come up for sale. I saw what the people we sold it to did.

  • Large red thick Spanish tile with Japanese black stone filling in the base of the tree in the middle of the patio and black 'short porch', black chain gutter drains gone - all replaced with distressed red construction brick patio and the tree was removed.
  • Camellias and Azaleas that were under the tree canopy - gone, replace by whatever those plant I saw were. These were established plants, about 7 feet tall and would regularly produce big blooms with little maintenance.
  • Large living room used to have birch tongue and groove panels that made up the ceiling - light stain and varnished - painted crudely over in white. I am glad they left the custom off-blue tile wall behind the freestanding black fireplace alone, though it looked like they got that fireplace a little too hot.
  • Walnut bookcase - painted over white.
  • Walnut color matched wainscotting and window frames in Dining room - painted over white.

    I could list more but that would be belaboring the point.
    I've learned that my style is not the style of many or even most people.

    If it is primarily her taste, and he is allowing her the 'decorating', I don't see any problem there - after all, he does have the money and it is often better to yield on some things to have peace in the home.

    NOTE: Those mass of picture frames is more of a woman's style than a man's. I have never seen a guy set out that many picture frames on one table.. but my S.O.'s mother does.

    PS: On a lark, I am going to see if I can determine what my S.O. thinks of the interior without telling her whose it is.

  • Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 13, 2016 - 9:33am.

    The link says the apartment was designed by Angelo Donghia who died in 1985.
    So the style is more Ivanna, older generation immigrant from a communist country. Reagan meets Gorbachev over the top 80s style. Makes sense.

    Submitted by scaredyclassic on August 13, 2016 - 12:10pm.

    maybe the second am. types can improve the style

    Submitted by scaredyclassic on August 13, 2016 - 12:10pm.

    maybe the second am. types can improve the style

    Submitted by XBoxBoy on August 13, 2016 - 12:20pm.

    Rich Toscano wrote:
    It looks like Liberace huffed gold paint and threw up all over Tsar Nicholas II's summer home.

    This line deserves recognition as the best writing ever on Piggington.

    Submitted by zk on August 13, 2016 - 10:46pm.

    XBoxBoy wrote:
    Rich Toscano wrote:
    It looks like Liberace huffed gold paint and threw up all over Tsar Nicholas II's summer home.

    This line deserves recognition as the best writing ever on Piggington.

    Concur. Great stuff.

    Submitted by Rich Toscano on August 14, 2016 - 10:05am.

    I'm not sure how high a bar that is... but thanks. ;)

    Submitted by scaredyclassic on August 14, 2016 - 2:17pm.

    trump goldplated firearms. sold only on trump news network

    Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 14, 2016 - 3:46pm.

    I would like to have a Philippe Starck gold plated gun lamp.
    Sexy manly decor.

    http://usa.flos.com/Flos/lighting-by-Phi...

    Submitted by zk on August 14, 2016 - 5:08pm.

    FlyerInHi wrote:
    I would like to have a Philippe Starck gold plated gun lamp.
    Sexy manly decor.

    http://usa.flos.com/Flos/lighting-by-Philippe-Starck/Guns-table

    Easily the most hideous furniture I've ever seen.

    Compensating for something, but without a trace of subtlety, taste, or dignity.

    Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 14, 2016 - 7:32pm.

    zk wrote:
    FlyerInHi wrote:
    I would like to have a Philippe Starck gold plated gun lamp.
    Sexy manly decor.

    http://usa.flos.com/Flos/lighting-by-Philippe-Starck/Guns-table

    Easily the most hideous furniture I've ever seen.

    Compensating for something, but without a trace of subtlety, taste, or dignity.

    You don't think is kinda James Bond sophisticated? Guns are badass.

    Submitted by Rich Toscano on August 14, 2016 - 9:22pm.

    zk wrote:
    Compensating for something, but without a trace of subtlety, taste, or dignity.

    Just to circle back, that would also be an excellent description of Trump's apartment, or his life.

    Submitted by zk on August 14, 2016 - 9:38pm.

    Rich Toscano wrote:
    zk wrote:
    Compensating for something, but without a trace of subtlety, taste, or dignity.

    Just to circle back, that would also be an excellent description of Trump's apartment, or his life.

    Ha! Perfect.

    Submitted by zk on August 15, 2016 - 10:28am.

    FlyerInHi wrote:

    You don't think is kinda James Bond sophisticated? Guns are badass.

    Guns are not badass. Guns are the opposite of badass. If a guy needs a gun (or a gun lamp) to appear badass or to feel badass, then he is exactly the opposite of badass.

    Just my opinion.

    Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 15, 2016 - 1:50pm.

    zk wrote:

    Guns are not badass. Guns are the opposite of badass. If a guy needs a gun (or a gun lamp) to appear badass or to feel badass, then he is exactly the opposite of badass.

    Just my opinion.

    I get what you're saying... But I want to be 007 with the golden gun!

    Submitted by FlyerInHi on September 30, 2016 - 11:11am.

    SK in CV wrote:
    He can't negate the "racist, anti-woman image he has", because it's not an image. It is Donald Trump. He didn't pick a woman because he doesn't think of women as equals. He might understand TV, but he doesn't understand politics. And he's sharply underestimated how bad this campaign could be for his franchise. He could be bankrupt and broke in 5 years.

    SK, you posted on the other thread, but I'm following up here to keep in context of trump's businesses.

    Trump can't find a restaurant for his DC hotel. And his brand now carries an ick factor. Who is going to hold a meeting at his hotels? For a man who care about money, Trump is committing serious business malpractice.

    I'm thinking he owes a lot of money to the Russian mob. He may meet an ignoble ending.

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