Traffic circles, defund tha police, lawnorder

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Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 6, 2020 - 7:22am

Defund the police sounds a hell of a lot more threatening than fuck tha police.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020...

Id be very afraid of a huge surplus of disenfranchised exmilitary white men who think theyre heroes, alphas who like to control situations and think theyre owed a debt of gratitude, whose jobs were suddenly deemed unnecessary .

Smells like iraq post invasion.

Disaster.

This would have to happen slowly or the heroes would kill us.

Your dog who u think loves u will eat your corpse once hungry.

Are cops like traffic lights?

Theres a new traffic circle near me. No lights, no stop sign. People work it out. Moves faster, better than it used to.

What would america be like with half the cops?

What if union busting came to the police?

What if drugs were legal, like in the old days? No profit in selling, no glamor. Just...not a crime.

Speed limits, if we cared could be computer regulated.

Malcolm gladwell talked about concentrating policing in small areas. Most crime happens predictably in very tight locations.

More police...more traffic lights..is that more safety?

I think the scariest part is angry cops and people whod otherwise be perps having no purpose.

Just an empty society filled with high testosterone undirected male energy. With nowhere to go.

No story of why they live.

We dont need another hero.

Maybe men are the problem.

Maybe female is the future.

This would involve reimagining society.

And i dont know if we have it in us

I cant picture america fundamentally changing.

I cant see an america not cruel and hard.

We are number one after all and nice guys dont finish no. 1.

I really love this crazy country.

We are just one long episode of lawnorder.

One long boot stomp in the face.

Vicious mma women fighters. We can be killers 2.

The law part of lawnorder changes.

And the order part can change too. Traffic lights become traffic circles.

But i dont see fundamental change ever.

Ive often thought the last 3 gov. employees in society will be a judge, a cop and an executioner.

Then the judge gets fired, the executioner gets laid off and the cop get overtime.

I think we are stuck forever as we are.

For my lifetime anyway.

If the people can be trusted with guns, what else can they be trusted with.

Freedom? Naah too dangerous.

I have a gut feeling that the social forces welling up are gonna make the 60s llook like nothing.

I have no idea what they are or where theyre headed.

Trump voters in 2016 were overwhelmingly over 50 per pew research foundation. Age 18 to 29, 28 perc for trump. 50plus, 52 perc trump.

Old people arent wise. They're stuck, and fearful and foolish. We are grateful to our ridiculous ancestors not because they were wise or strong, but because they suffered and struggled half blind and miserable to get us each where we are.

Its time for trump to go, for me soon to go, for you too.

When the old folk are swept away whats left in the wreckage.

I dont see anything better possible. But im confident 18 to 29 year olds do.

Fools

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 6, 2020 - 7:30am.

Mad max...

We dont need another hero

But everyone, inc. Me, wants to be a hero ...

Out of the ruins
Out from the wreckage
Can't make the same mistake this time
We are the children
The last generation (the last generation)
We are the ones they left behind
And I wonder when we are ever gonna change it
Living under the fear 'til nothing else remains
We don't need another hero
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the Thunderdome
Looking for something
We can rely on
There's got to be something better out there
Love and compassion
Their day is coming (coming)
All else are castles built in the air
And I wonder when we are ever gonna change it
Living under the fear 'til nothing else remains
All the children say
We don't need another hero
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the Thunderdome
So what do we do with our lives?
We leave only a mark
Will our story shine like a life
Or end in the dark?
In the name of nothing
We don't need another hero
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the Thunderdome
All the children say
We don't need another hero (we don't need another hero)
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the Thunderdome

Submitted by FlyerInHi on June 7, 2020 - 9:49am.

Ex cops without jobs sounds scary.

Submitted by PCinSD on June 7, 2020 - 10:31am.

FlyerInHi wrote:
Ex cops without jobs sounds scary.

How so?

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 7, 2020 - 11:00am.

They tend to powerfully identify with their job.

They think they deserve adulation and we should be grateful.

They are heavily armed.

They expect good pay.

They believe heavy policing and punishment are vital to social order.

They will be very displeased if they are significantly cut.

A significant percentage could become aggrieved, radicalized and dangerous.

I think it would be safer to society as a whol to make changes slowly, phase them down gradually, so they dont rise up and hurt people.

I think it would be a grave threat to public safety to have large numbers of unemployed cops.

When your dog likes you, you think its a good dog. But when your dog is hungry it will eat your corpse.

Maybe just cut 10% of the budget, phase down by attrition and not hiring.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 7, 2020 - 11:03am.

Every dime spent on police in the drug war was a total waste of money.

Every cop who participated wasted their life. Dumber than the vietnam war.

Not quite as useless and dumb as afghanistan military action.

Submitted by Coronita on June 7, 2020 - 11:10am.

A couple cop friends recently switched to fire fighting.

Better pay, less occupational risk, don't have to deal with all this crap.

Don't worry, the more capable good cops are voluntarily leaving if they are too young to rest and vest for their pensions. What we are going to be left with are a bunch of less than ideal ones that can't find better things to do. This isn't any surprise. Whenever any organization downsizes, top talent usually leaves first because they are the ones that are in demand elsewhere. Bottom talent and rest and vesters is what you are left with.

Submitted by ltsddd on June 7, 2020 - 11:16am.

Coronita wrote:
A couple cop friends recently switched to fire fighting.

I am curious what's their race/ethnicity. Last I checked, it's quite an exclusive club.

Submitted by Coronita on June 7, 2020 - 11:19am.

ltsddd wrote:
Coronita wrote:
A couple cop friends recently switched to fire fighting.

I am curious what's their race/ethnicity. Last I checked, it's quite an exclusive club.

bay area some cop and fire dept have a rotation program. except these days it's more like a transfer program. But here, friends live in East County.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 7, 2020 - 11:20am.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/...

Law enforcement is the standing army the founding fathers feared.

Submitted by Hobie on June 7, 2020 - 11:53am.

While we are in the de-funding mode lets add: code enforcement, meter maids, EPA,IRS, local govn't, State Goveners, Super PAC's, NPR, EIC, social programs, and on and on. I get it, let's start over.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 7, 2020 - 12:22pm.

Hobie wrote:
While we are in the de-funding mode lets add: code enforcement, meter maids, EPA,IRS, local govn't, State Goveners, Super PAC's, NPR, EIC, social programs, and on and on. I get it, let's start over.

Most of those help maintain social order. Lets start with cops and see how it goes.

Submitted by svelte on June 7, 2020 - 12:45pm.

Don't want to see police eliminated, but reducing their funding would be A-OK with me.

First thing to go: DUI checkpoints. Have you read the outbriefs on those things? Most of the time they don't get a single DUI, at least here in North County.

What a waste of time, manpower, and money.

I know they are really there for OTHER reasons, but that's part of my point. They shouldn't be hiding other intentions under the guise of DUI checkpoints.

Submitted by PCinSD on June 7, 2020 - 1:22pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
They tend to powerfully identify with their job.

They think they deserve adulation and we should be grateful.

They are heavily armed.

They expect good pay.

They believe heavy policing and punishment are vital to social order.

They will be very displeased if they are significantly cut.

A significant percentage could become aggrieved, radicalized and dangerous.

I think it would be safer to society as a whol to make changes slowly, phase them down gradually, so they dont rise up and hurt people.

I think it would be a grave threat to public safety to have large numbers of unemployed cops.

When your dog likes you, you think its a good dog. But when your dog is hungry it will eat your corpse.

Maybe just cut 10% of the budget, phase down by attrition and not hiring.

LOL, no wonder you sucked as a lawyer. You made more sense when you were drinking.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 7, 2020 - 1:54pm.

Just 100 organized excop timothy mcveighs would be equivalent to 1000 9/11s.

Saddams former cops and enforcers prop up isis. They didnt just fade away into obscurity with social change.

Cops are cops. They enforce current social order.

Our cops arent all going to peacably accept social change and take jobs at ralphs or go back to college.

Im not saying all excops would be dangerous, but statistically i would be terrified at the prospect of large numbers of suddenly unemployed cops.

I would hope the military would just absorb them all and give them a task and a uniform and some dignity. For public safety.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 7, 2020 - 2:02pm.

PCinSD wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
They tend to powerfully identify with their job.

They think they deserve adulation and we should be grateful.

They are heavily armed.

They expect good pay.

They believe heavy policing and punishment are vital to social order.

They will be very displeased if they are significantly cut.

A significant percentage could become aggrieved, radicalized and dangerous.

I think it would be safer to society as a whol to make changes slowly, phase them down gradually, so they dont rise up and hurt people.

I think it would be a grave threat to public safety to have large numbers of unemployed cops.

When your dog likes you, you think its a good dog. But when your dog is hungry it will eat your corpse.

Maybe just cut 10% of the budget, phase down by attrition and not hiring.

LOL, no wonder you sucked as a lawyer. You made more sense when you were drinking.

I believe alcohol is in my past. This is as much brain as ill ever have tho.

https://pocket.co/xhQ91n?cta=1&src=ph

The end of policing . Rethinking which problems police are here to address. Trigger alert...From npr.

Submitted by PCinSD on June 7, 2020 - 2:42pm.

You have a lot of beliefs and thoughts, I'll grant you that. Others, like you, have beliefs and thoughts about entire segments of society and use those beliefs and thoughts as a way to discriminate against them. Who knew that was wrong?

You've changed man. Hell, you were more reasonable during the lifting and topless selfie stage. Bring that non-attention seeking character back.

Submitted by Hobie on June 7, 2020 - 5:16pm.

re:npr ha, touche, scaredy!!

Submitted by outtamojo on June 8, 2020 - 3:43pm.

Found a bad bushel here https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/us/brevar...

The rot runs deep but the good cops should vote to accept reform in their next union contract. Should be easy if in fact they are the majority.

Submitted by outtamojo on June 8, 2020 - 5:07pm.

Fixed the middle east, tamed the coronavirus, now to fix the police

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-ca...

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