there is no g-d

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Submitted by scaredyclassic on April 21, 2019 - 3:20pm

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 21, 2019 - 8:43pm.

I agree. I recently told a person that if he’s going to tell me about god, I want equal time in return. Bill Maher has the right response when it comes to God.

Submitted by zk on April 21, 2019 - 10:07pm.

Then why are you spelling it like that?

Submitted by scaredyclassic on April 22, 2019 - 8:02am.

certainly dont want to irritate Him in the extremely unlikely event he exists by my presumptuously spelling out His name. same reason i wear a yarmulke.

i mean, come on, obviously all religion is a giant scam, and G-d is a creation of our own anxiety and need to belong to a group that excludes others, and a need to control each other, but one never knows. it's maybe possible He exists...in some Universe of the infinite universes, an angry G-d who doesnt speak or apparently care about human suffering is angered by the uncovered head or his name spelled out and had a kid who he conspired to torture or at least failed to protect in orderto save our eternal souls, through some leap in logic which only nakes sense if you believe, even though its crazy sounding on the surface of it...torturw, zombie jesus, miracles..

based on pascals wager we should probably all just sincerely believe everything is true though. so i accept Him as my personal savior, praise allah. also, ill keep koshe, just in case. .

but not sure that will technically work .

anyway costco closes on easter. pretty irritating. i believe in Jesus, but theres nothing in scripture about shutting down commerce in Gods chosen nation on Easter.

Submitted by zk on April 22, 2019 - 8:27am.

Exactly the kind of gem-packed answer I was hoping for. Man, you really are one of a kind.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on April 22, 2019 - 9:37am.

we were completely out of cat litter.

we have 5 cats.

Eloi Eloi lama sabachthani?

Submitted by rent4now on April 22, 2019 - 9:48am.

Philippians 2:10-11

10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on April 22, 2019 - 12:45pm.

rent4now wrote:
Philippians 2:10-11

10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

i definitely agree with G-d that a fetus isnt a person and killing one should be punishable by a fine.

G-d, aka jesus, said it pretty clearly in Exodus 21:22‑23, where Scripture states: “When men fight and one of them pushes a pregnant woman and a miscarriage results, but no other misfortune ensues, the one responsible shall be fined as the woman’s husband may exact from him, the payment to be based on judges’ reckoning.

Submitted by svelte on April 22, 2019 - 1:34pm.

a tenet I live by:

never let the number of pets outnumber the number of people in a house.

Submitted by carlsbadworker on April 22, 2019 - 3:21pm.

The biggest problem with pascals wager: there is more than one g-d in the world and they don't agree with each other. Plus some are super jealousy when you believe in other g-d.

But on the positive side, life is too damn hard and sometimes you do need miracles from multiples g-ds, which can help you to create multiple conflicting stories to get through it.

Submitted by flu on April 22, 2019 - 8:24pm.

I'm not very religious...

But for argument's sake...

What's the difference between ridiculing people of Christian faith over a blog, hurling insults at such religion, and religious people, spitting and pissing on what probably matters a lot to them...versus hurling a bunch of stereotypes and a vulgarities about a say an Latino or African American or Muslim?

Is this sort of ridicule here on this thread *that* much different than Donald Trump's ridicule and disdain for Muslims, or have we all sunken to an all time low across the board?

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 23, 2019 - 12:40am.

Says the guy who called AOC crazy. Why don’t you let her proselytize her ideas and if she has enough followers then she will be right. Socialism is just a choice to manage our affairs. What’s crazy about that?

God on the hand is crazy by definition.

Being Latino or African American is beyond one’s control.

As far as Muslims, people like Trump don’t question the belief in god per se — they believe Islam is evil and disparage cultures associated with Islam. And they apply guilt by association to whole populations. The Trumpistas just need the same rule applied to them in return.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on April 23, 2019 - 6:56am.

its different.

christianity in us is political power.

also christians prosyletize like crazy. in fact the bible commands them so...if someone is trying to sell you something and it sucks, or is useless or doesnt work, you are allowed to tell then so...

if its not offensive for a chridtian to "share" his faith [in what is really the single most obnoxious sales pitch of all time]..and pity your lack of salvation....its not offensive to say why its wrongheaded. yelp.

i remember when religion was...private...

not so in your face

and what is with the anti abortion shit. the bible exolicitly says a fetus is NOT the equivalent of a human, see above. jesus never said boo about fetuses. the christian right judt made that ABORTION IS MURDER shit up.

its all political...bullshit...

furthermore, if you really have faith, some dope on the internet wont upset you unless.. theres some truth to what hes saying...

like bikes...if you rant about how dangerous and stupid and backwards they are, i wont be offended. ill just think you are sad and lost and deluded and foolish. and missing out on a beautiful thing

the real and growing threat isnt atheism...

at least thats acknowledging g-d.

the threat is apatheism.

that the whole topic is irrelevant

which really is where i need to get...

but the CHRISTIANS ARE SO LOUD AND PUSHY...and republican...

i did have a nice talk w sone muslim prosyletizers in Balboa park, not about allah but about islamic banking, home loans and the prohibition on interest workarounds.

those guys were chill and humble because they know theyre hated

Christians just like to PRETEND theyre a hated outsider group. if they really were theyd be chill too.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on April 23, 2019 - 7:19am.

we cant know if there's a heaven because no one comes back.

however we can know some of religions failings because hardcore christians abandon their faith sometimes and report back their prior delusions .

Submitted by zk on April 23, 2019 - 9:02am.

flu wrote:

What's the difference between ridiculing people of Christian faith over a blog, hurling insults at such religion, and religious people, spitting and pissing on what probably matters a lot to them...versus hurling a bunch of stereotypes and a vulgarities about a say an Latino or African American...

Dude. Really?

"You've chosen to base your life on a ridiculous fantasy. Which is bad enough by itself, but I could ignore that. But you want me to share your delusions? You want our country to base its laws on your delusions? FUCK. YOU."

vs.

"You're black. You must be stupid. And lazy. And suckling at the government teat."

Can you really not see the difference?

flu wrote:

...or Muslim?

No difference. They're deluded fools, too.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 23, 2019 - 10:45am.

If you believe in some made up God, Christians will tell you that you’re crazy. According to them, the only god you’re not crazy to believe in is Jesus Christ.

So Christians are not really for religion. The are only for their own religion.

Submitted by zk on April 23, 2019 - 11:01am.

FlyerInHi wrote:
If you believe in some made up God, Christians will tell you that you’re crazy. According to them, the only god you’re not crazy to believe in is Jesus Christ.

So Christians are not really for religion. The are only for their own religion.

That goes for almost all religions/religious people.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 23, 2019 - 12:26pm.

I believe in Feng shui.
Some years ago a friend who is very reapectable, honorable and honest gave me a cutting of a jade plant (money plant). I tended to the plant which has flowered. Ever since, prosperity has been coming my way. There is too much coincidence for there not to be some kind of special energy.

I was told that if you buy your own plant or if a bad person gives you a plant, then there will not be the same auspicious effect.

Submitted by zk on April 23, 2019 - 1:10pm.

FlyerInHi wrote:
I believe in Feng shui.
Some years ago a friend who is very reapectable, honorable and honest gave me a cutting of a jade plant (money plant). I tended to the plant which has flowered. Ever since, prosperity has been coming my way. There is too much coincidence for there not to be some kind of special energy.

I was told that if you buy your own plant or if a bad person gives you a plant, then there will not be the same auspicious effect.

What a pathetic load of nonsense.

If you believe the above, you can't criticize or mock religious people (or those who believe in astrology, for that matter) for their beliefs without being extraordinarily hypocritical.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 23, 2019 - 1:47pm.

Haha. I was being facetious. It is non-sense, but it makes a nice story, doesn’t it?

I told the story and I had friends request cuttings from me, except that I am not a good enough person to transmit auspiciousness. But a friend swears that after a long dry spell, she made a profitable sale after receiving my plant.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on April 23, 2019 - 1:56pm.

I believe in lots of things that probably aren’t true.

I believe that kindness ultimately pays off.

I believe in fish oil.

I believe that a good sleep cures or wards off serious illness.

I believe doing nothing is usually the right strategy.

I believe that caring for the planet is extremely important.

I believe the United States is full of crap on many issues.

I believe on the whole, people across the globe generally suck.

I believe that the world’s problems could probably be solved with bicycles.

I believe that alcohol is good for you.

I believe in the value of a dollar.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 23, 2019 - 4:52pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
I believe in lots of things that probably aren’t true.

I believe that kindness ultimately pays off.

I believe in fish oil.

I believe that a good sleep cures or wards off serious illness.

I believe doing nothing is usually the right strategy.

I believe that caring for the planet is extremely important.

I believe the United States is full of crap on many issues.

I believe on the whole, people across the globe generally suck.

I believe that the world’s problems could probably be solved with bicycles.

I believe that alcohol is good for you.

I believe in the value of a dollar.

I would follow your religion. I agree on everything except the alcohol part, but that’s ok.

On the USA as full of crap, if I remember well, Immanuel Kant said that something is moral/just only if it is universal. We do so many unjust things but no rational unbiased person could support. For example, we are now criticizing CPTPP countries for moving ahead with TPP that we spent a decade negotiating only to pull out at the last minute.

We only fair and sportsmanlike when we win.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washing...

Submitted by ocrenter on April 23, 2019 - 5:05pm.

Religion was a very necessary human creation that helped us as we moved from hunters and gatherers to an agrarian society and beyond. I find all religions were created and centered along the line of some form of mediative practice to help one deal with human suffering and also to aid in the need to explain the unexplainable.

Religions are the Proza and Zoloft and Lexapro of human societies before the advent of modern psychology and psychiatric practices. Unfortunately some folks are so into their “brand” of “SSRI” that they find the need to pray for others on other brands of “SSRI.”

Would recommend all to read the following book, it was quite enlightening:

https://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Humankind...

Submitted by flyer on April 23, 2019 - 5:12pm.

Obviously, we all have the option of believing or not believing. To each his or her own. Guess we'll all find out when we take our last breath--for which there is no option.

Submitted by flu on April 23, 2019 - 6:42pm.

Walter. Pretty much everyone is an asshole. The only difference is where the assholeness is directed to.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 23, 2019 - 6:42pm.

ocrenter wrote:

Would recommend all to read the following book, it was quite enlightening:

https://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Humankind...

Love Yuval Harari. I second the recommendation.

Submitted by flu on April 23, 2019 - 7:03pm.

Brian, if you can't distinguished between calling an individual crazy because of or her viewpoint on public policy versus generalizing to an entire group of people , you are beyond help.

I am not surprised you immediately bring up the race card in talking about AOC why people don't like her. it's what "progressives" like you do when you can't argue over policy and have to bring race or gender into the equation. after all, it's far easier to shut down the other side by side by throwing out the race card or gender card versus actually disagreeing based on what the individual says. I would have brought up an equal disdain for Warren but you would bring you her gender as the reason for why someone would dislike her... And if I were to bring up Bernie, you would probably bring up age discrimination as the reason why people do t like him....Always use whatever means to win an argument, play the race and victimcard. Nice. Not surprised at all.

Buy hey Brian, I threw you a bone. Now you can spend the next 2 weeks commenting on this thread and turning it into a left versus right slapfest that you've been trying but unsuccessfully doing on the other threads you try to resurrect from ages ago for that purpose. Most of us have figured this out already, which is why there is usually 0 responses.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 23, 2019 - 7:21pm.

What gender?

I was talking about you calling the idea of social democracy crazy. Or you calling a person crazy for having such ideas. .
There are plenty of examples where those ideas when put in practice work very well. Not crazy at all.

The idea of God however is by definition crazy.

Submitted by SDNative2 on April 23, 2019 - 9:02pm.

The irony in this string is that--like many of you-- Jesus was quite the contrarian...

Submitted by scaredyclassic on April 23, 2019 - 9:30pm.

SDNative2 wrote:
The irony in this string is that--like many of you-- Jesus was quite the contrarian...

true. and quite the jewish business innovator. imagine the royalties ifvhe couldve franchised or monetized the whole church concept.

wait.. i think he did...

Submitted by scaredyclassic on April 23, 2019 - 9:35pm.

flyer wrote:
Obviously, we all have the option of believing or not believing. To each his or her own. Guess we'll all find out when we take our last breath--for which there is no option.

presumes some form of consciousness after death that will know.

we wont know because there is no condciousness after death. we would only know if there is an afterlife, not if there isn't .

which is the beauty of the whole heaven scheme. absolutely unproveable, zero evidence.

of course, he could appear at any moment. if only he wanted to. .

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