Super shitty 1st week on the job

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Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 4, 2020 - 8:30pm

One of the floyd cops was a total noob, 3rd service call, under chauvins supervision, brand new cop now in on serious charges.

Another was on his 4th day.

Defense attorneys said Kueng, 26, of Plymouth was working his third shift ever as a full-time officer and Lane, 37, of St. Paul was working his fourth day as a full-time officer on the day they encountered Floyd.

However shitty your week at work is, thes eguys beat u...

damn...terrible reversal of fortune. I feel bad...

and im not even inclined to be sympathetic.

Your brand new, all excited about your new gig, you get a douchebag supervisor, and then u lose your job, maybe your life and you break the usa.

That is some serious winning the lottery backwards bad luck

Not guilty...like they could realistically disobey chauvin...

you know what, give him his damn job back too.

If your manager sucks...move on. I stayed at a job too long at the beginning of my career. Abusive mgr. Ugh. I was so miserable.

True i wasnt very good, but the guy had me so tied up in knots i did worse. It was just how he rolled, fucking with underlings. On the other hand, he was very ethical

But at least i got to leave, no prison, no going down in history as the face of systemic racism

If i could have a do over in life idve left after the first tantrum. Was bullshit.

Lawyers are warned in ethics that even new lawyers have to make independent ethical calls, dont rely on someone cuz theyre your boss, or old...yes, lawyers study ethics even have to take the mpre, kind of the sat of legal ethics.

Very Failable test...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multistate...

I made it on the first try, barely. I could not figure out the correct answers on a lot of the damn multiple choice questions, even when i knew the rule cold. Alwaus 2 of the answers seemed totally correct. Basically u guess.

I wonder what cops are told on the issue of disobeying the training officer.

Submitted by outtamojo on June 4, 2020 - 9:10pm.

I think they oughtta go light on the noobs- sounds like they did try to do the right thing. The two veteran cops should bear the brunt of punishment.

Submitted by zk on June 4, 2020 - 10:27pm.

outtamojo wrote:
I think they oughtta go light on the noobs- sounds like they did try to do the right thing. The two veteran cops should bear the brunt of punishment.

Agree. If your supervisor is showing you that this is how you do it, it's pretty tough to tell him otherwise. Or even to know otherwise.

"Oh. The guy said he can't breathe and now he's not moving anymore. But Derek is still grinding his knee into his neck with all his weight on top of it. I guess that's how we do it. They must do this all the time and apparently nobody dies or they wouldn't be doing it. I guess maybe this is how we show them who's boss or something. Seems like overkill, though. I wonder if I can ask about this later without anybody thinking I'm a fool or a pussy or, god forbid, a liberal."

I don't know if that sounds like sarcasm, but it's not. Really an impossible situation for a new guy to be in.

scaredyclassic wrote:

That is some serious winning the lottery backwards bad luck

Funny way to put it. Not in the mood to laugh about it, though. So messed up for those guys. That shit is way worse than winning the lottery is good.

Submitted by Hobie on June 5, 2020 - 4:43am.

From a strategic point of view I would reinstate the newbys. After what they saw, experienced, lived through, they would be the best teacher to other cops to follow protocols to the letter. Then all ships would rise.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 5, 2020 - 7:39am.

Hobie wrote:
From a strategic point of view I would reinstate the newbys. After what they saw, experienced, lived through, they would be the best teacher to other cops to follow protocols to the letter. Then all ships would rise.

Insightful point.

Prolly not politically tenable. But

Maybe they could do that for comnunity service hours.

If they ever get out of prison

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 5, 2020 - 7:42am.

This problem may be caused in part by police militarization.

Hierarchy. Obeying commands. Superior officers. Etc.

What if instead, all cops were equal.

Prob. Wouldnt have mattered here, as these guys were likely on a probationary period, where theyd want mgt to like them

Submitted by zk on June 5, 2020 - 8:47am.

Hobie wrote:
From a strategic point of view I would reinstate the newbys. After what they saw, experienced, lived through, they would be the best teacher to other cops to follow protocols to the letter. Then all ships would rise.

Good point. There's nothing like the scare of your life to have a permanent effect on your behavior.

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