Some Covid-19 Good News - Plastic bags are back !

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Submitted by sdduuuude on April 8, 2020 - 10:28am

Due to the COVID-19 outbreak, grocery store customers are now restricted from bringing in their own shopping bags.

Free one-time-use plastic bags are back in California !
I missed them.

Submitted by Coronita on April 8, 2020 - 10:53am.

So is $3/gallon gas!!!

Submitted by scaredyclassic on April 8, 2020 - 10:36am.

sdduuuude wrote:
Due to the COVID-19 outbreak, grocery store customers are now restricted from bringing in their own shopping bags.

Free one-time-use plastic bags are back in California !
I missed them.

Yeah me too. And I admit now, I was wrong, I need at least a small paper bag

I dont shower anymore, use wet wipes. Youd be surprised at how much more poop you'll find with wet wipes.

And how much u want a bag.

Submitted by evolusd on April 8, 2020 - 10:43am.

Not good news, the world needs to figure out a better way than single use plastic. Big problem IMO.

A bit ironic, though, that they banned plastic bags but everything you buy at the store and then put in your re-usable bags is packaged in plastic. Have to start somewhere, I guess.

Submitted by sdduuuude on April 8, 2020 - 11:40am.

evolusd wrote:
Not good news, the world needs to figure out a better way than single use plastic. Big problem IMO.

A bit ironic, though, that they banned plastic bags but everything you buy at the store and then put in your re-usable bags is packaged in plastic. Have to start somewhere, I guess.

What is really weird that they spent so much money to get this passed in California, which is a drop-in-the-bucket of the worldwide problem. They could have spent all that money helping this guy and everyone would be alot better off:

How insignificant is the California law, compared to this one beach in India ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijobBrCJ3d8

Or this guy:
https://www.ted.com/talks/david_katz_the...

Submitted by sdduuuude on April 8, 2020 - 11:43am.

scaredyclassic wrote:
sdduuuude wrote:
Due to the COVID-19 outbreak, grocery store customers are now restricted from bringing in their own shopping bags.

Free one-time-use plastic bags are back in California !
I missed them.

Yeah me too. And I admit now, I was wrong, I need at least a small paper bag

I dont shower anymore, use wet wipes. Youd be surprised at how much more poop you'll find with wet wipes.

And how much u want a bag.

This site needs a button to flag posts as "Too Much Information" !

Submitted by SDNative2 on April 8, 2020 - 1:39pm.

It's been $2.59/gal for Premium the last two weeks north O'side.

Submitted by Coronita on April 8, 2020 - 2:19pm.

SDNative2 wrote:
It's been $2.59/gal for Premium the last two weeks north O'side.

Really? Holy crap. So premium is probably around $2.79... I might need to go for a drive and fill up.

Submitted by sdduuuude on April 8, 2020 - 4:16pm.

Coronita wrote:
SDNative2 wrote:
It's been $2.59/gal for Premium the last two weeks north O'side.

Really? Holy crap. So premium is probably around $2.79... I might need to go for a drive and fill up.

Ya, FLU - if you haven't been out of Carmel Valley you wouldn't know gas prices have plummeted.

A few days ago it was 3.29 at ARCO in CV and 2.69 in Clairemont, and 2.49 at Costco.

Submitted by Coronita on April 8, 2020 - 5:20pm.

sdduuuude wrote:
Coronita wrote:
SDNative2 wrote:
It's been $2.59/gal for Premium the last two weeks north O'side.

Really? Holy crap. So premium is probably around $2.79... I might need to go for a drive and fill up.

Ya, FLU - if you haven't been out of Carmel Valley you wouldn't know gas prices have plummeted.

A few days ago it was 3.29 at ARCO in CV and 2.69 in Clairemont, and 2.49 at Costco.

Damn, I filled up 6 cars before we went into stay at home, figuring out I won't need to go back to a gas station for 2 months. Didn't expect things to fall so fast... Come to think of it I think I only used 1/4 tank in one car. Anyone want to loan me a 50 gallon barrel? lol....

Submitted by Coronita on April 9, 2020 - 5:59am.

One really positive thing is worldwide pollution is way down!

The other thing is so far, the nerd herd has been spared more so than others. Techies, doctors, scientists, teachers.

Remember years ago, there was a huge argument about the virtues of service jobs not requiring a lot of education, and manual skill labor was in huge demand across the service industry often paying better? Well, many of those service jobs just vaporized because those jobs require human interaction...not something that can be done "working remotely". Some of these jobs aren't coming back for awhile.

Imho this will drive more automation and less reliance on humans. High tech will do great , as we now have no choice but to reduce human interaction. So much opportunity.

There is also something to be said about replacing some of the functions ICU nurses have to do with some automation and robotics, and to allow remote management of some medical devices, for example ventilators, to reduce
nurses' exposure to a deadly virus

Submitted by Coronita on April 9, 2020 - 6:05am.

The other thing positive is gold is over $1700/ounce.

The bad news is places like La Jolla coin shop aren't open so one can't sell gold bullion locally

Submitted by svelte on April 9, 2020 - 7:30am.

Coronita wrote:

Imho this will drive more automation and less reliance on humans. High tech will do great , as we now have no choice but to reduce human interaction. So much opportunity.

I think this is true. It will give motivation to companies to speed up their investment in technology to replace workers.

It may even increase work-from-home some as it will show companies just what can be done from home. If those employees turn out to be productive at home, companies will see that they can save $$ by relinquishing leased office space. I've already heard of a couple Silly Valley companies that are considering this.

But for the most part, companies will still need and want employees to come in. I for one miss the interaction with my fellow employees and am looking forward to being back in office.

Back to original topic: the bags in the grocery store up here are really thick this week! They aren't the cheap flimsy ones in vogue just a couple of years ago.

I had just adjusted to the reusable bag concept and now am tossed back to disposables. Guess I'll just go with the flow. As if I have a choice.

Submitted by Coronita on April 9, 2020 - 7:55am.

You can still use the reusable bags. The only issue is that now if you do, they won't bag it for you, you'll need to bag yourself. Not really a big deal and personally the less other people touch my food the better it is. Also, when you bring the bag home, you should spray it down with disinfectant and hang it outside.

Reusable bags weren't really that environmentally friendly anyway ...we simply shifted the problem to China where they are made. And many of these reusable bags don't last that long and have to be thrown out.

The disposable plastic bags I used as wastecan bag liners so I wouldn't have to buy them. Also folks with dogs can use them as poop bags instead of grabbing the ones at the park.

This could actually be a good thing because a lot of people I see with dogs forget to bring a poop bag and the parks/trail run out..So often dog owners don't bother to pick up. I hate some dog owners.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on April 9, 2020 - 7:58am.

Hi quality tote bags are really nice.

I recently bought a dandux coal bag, rated to carry 100 lbs. Big in japan apparently.

Steele totes has a nice website, gorgeous product

Artifact bags, more hipster, absolutely beautiful

Will require greater investment, but I've had a heavy canvas bag I'd been using regularly since 1998 . Handle finally came loose

Submitted by sdduuuude on April 9, 2020 - 10:00am.

Coronita wrote:
Imho this will drive more automation and less reliance on humans. High tech will do great , as we now have no choice but to reduce human interaction. So much opportunity.

The recent and upcoming increases in minimum wage gonna be a disaster for unemployment.

Submitted by svelte on April 9, 2020 - 10:22am.

Coronita wrote:
You can still use the reusable bags. The only issue is that now if you do, they won't bag it for you, you'll need to bag yourself.

As I walked up to the grocery store door, they told me I would be using plastic not the re-usable. I asked if they wanted me to take the re-usable back to the car and they said yes.

Submitted by ltsddd on April 9, 2020 - 10:26am.

Grocery stores offering thick plastic bags for 10 cents after passing the law to ban "plastic bags" was plain dumb. Many people are more than happy to pay an extra 40-50 cents a week for the convenience. I believe the net effect of this is that there are more plastics going to the landfill. I also noticed that more and more restaurants (esp. Asian ones on Convoy) start using disposable plastic cups after the banning of plastic straws. If these laws were intended to help the environment, so far it doesn't seem like it's working as intended.

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