Pretty straight forward Pretty straight forward question. I’m cynical, I’ve always suspected they had the ability to open it before the case ever went to court.
If there is bug, I’d suspect the bug is with the OS, but since it is a work phone, I suspect the real solution, like most ‘hacks’ was simple social engineering. I suspect they determined either through security videos, interviews or other sources the most likely passcode they used.
Coronita
March 30, 2016 @
9:46 AM
The got the CIA to do it. The got the CIA to do it.
joec
March 31, 2016 @
6:20 PM
Since this was the older Since this was the older version of the iPhone, Apple has always had a way to unlock these I believe. What was strange with this case is that they refused to unlock this one, even under a court order even though they have unlocked these in the past I think.
That being the case, the group who unlocked it probably knew of some security vulnerabilities that Apple is trying to close in their newer versions.
My thoughts to crack the phone is just clone the data within the phone into 1000 iOS versions (assuming I can run a version like Android on a desktop) and brute force attack it. With only 4 numbers to try, it wouldn’t take long to break I don’t think.
I am assuming I can clone whatever is on the SSD or whatever memory is on the chips and maybe you can’t actually (someone here can probably confirm who knows how data is stored on phones).
moneymaker
March 31, 2016 @
6:46 PM
Maybe they lied and have not Maybe they lied and have not cracked it yet, there won’t be a trial since they are both dead. What is the status of the so called accomplice? Would they need the data to go after him?Come to think about it that is probably why suicide bombers exist so they cannot be traced back to the “masterminds”.
all
April 4, 2016 @
9:06 AM
joec wrote:Since this was the [quote=joec]Since this was the older version of the iPhone, Apple has always had a way to unlock these I believe. What was strange with this case is that they refused to unlock this one, even under a court order even though they have unlocked these in the past I think.
That being the case, the group who unlocked it probably knew of some security vulnerabilities that Apple is trying to close in their newer versions.
My thoughts to crack the phone is just clone the data within the phone into 1000 iOS versions (assuming I can run a version like Android on a desktop) and brute force attack it. With only 4 numbers to try, it wouldn’t take long to break I don’t think.
I am assuming I can clone whatever is on the SSD or whatever memory is on the chips and maybe you can’t actually (someone here can probably confirm who knows how data is stored on phones).[/quote]
The passcode is not necessarily 4-digits. There is an option that allows you to set alphanumeric password.
The data is encrypted and the key is etched in hardware. You can copy the data, but you can’t decrypt it without the key. There are tools that will allow you to harvest the key and some people argued that certain government agencies had the ability.
It was either what flu said, or CTA.
poorgradstudent
April 4, 2016 @
4:11 PM
From what I heard from From what I heard from security experts, the best guess is they basically made a copy of the phone’s entire contents, then brute forced those copies to allow more than 10 tries.
Myriad
April 4, 2016 @
11:40 PM
if anyone is going to crack if anyone is going to crack encryption, it’ll be the NSA.
March 30, 2016 @ 9:12 AM
Pretty straight forward
Pretty straight forward question. I’m cynical, I’ve always suspected they had the ability to open it before the case ever went to court.
If there is bug, I’d suspect the bug is with the OS, but since it is a work phone, I suspect the real solution, like most ‘hacks’ was simple social engineering. I suspect they determined either through security videos, interviews or other sources the most likely passcode they used.
March 30, 2016 @ 9:46 AM
The got the CIA to do it.
The got the CIA to do it.
March 31, 2016 @ 6:20 PM
Since this was the older
Since this was the older version of the iPhone, Apple has always had a way to unlock these I believe. What was strange with this case is that they refused to unlock this one, even under a court order even though they have unlocked these in the past I think.
That being the case, the group who unlocked it probably knew of some security vulnerabilities that Apple is trying to close in their newer versions.
My thoughts to crack the phone is just clone the data within the phone into 1000 iOS versions (assuming I can run a version like Android on a desktop) and brute force attack it. With only 4 numbers to try, it wouldn’t take long to break I don’t think.
I am assuming I can clone whatever is on the SSD or whatever memory is on the chips and maybe you can’t actually (someone here can probably confirm who knows how data is stored on phones).
March 31, 2016 @ 6:46 PM
Maybe they lied and have not
Maybe they lied and have not cracked it yet, there won’t be a trial since they are both dead. What is the status of the so called accomplice? Would they need the data to go after him?Come to think about it that is probably why suicide bombers exist so they cannot be traced back to the “masterminds”.
April 4, 2016 @ 9:06 AM
joec wrote:Since this was the
[quote=joec]Since this was the older version of the iPhone, Apple has always had a way to unlock these I believe. What was strange with this case is that they refused to unlock this one, even under a court order even though they have unlocked these in the past I think.
That being the case, the group who unlocked it probably knew of some security vulnerabilities that Apple is trying to close in their newer versions.
My thoughts to crack the phone is just clone the data within the phone into 1000 iOS versions (assuming I can run a version like Android on a desktop) and brute force attack it. With only 4 numbers to try, it wouldn’t take long to break I don’t think.
I am assuming I can clone whatever is on the SSD or whatever memory is on the chips and maybe you can’t actually (someone here can probably confirm who knows how data is stored on phones).[/quote]
The passcode is not necessarily 4-digits. There is an option that allows you to set alphanumeric password.
The data is encrypted and the key is etched in hardware. You can copy the data, but you can’t decrypt it without the key. There are tools that will allow you to harvest the key and some people argued that certain government agencies had the ability.
It was either what flu said, or CTA.
April 4, 2016 @ 4:11 PM
From what I heard from
From what I heard from security experts, the best guess is they basically made a copy of the phone’s entire contents, then brute forced those copies to allow more than 10 tries.
April 4, 2016 @ 11:40 PM
if anyone is going to crack
if anyone is going to crack encryption, it’ll be the NSA.