SiCKO of Religion and Politics on Piggington

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Submitted by PD on July 2, 2007 - 9:53am

I’m SiCKO of Michael Moore and would like to see his name disappear from the active forum topic list. Once again we have too many forum topics on religion and politics, which seems to chase away posting on real estate. These sorts of forum topics and comments are not good for Piggington, IMO.

I realize that many of these topics are correctly posted on the off topic forum, but hasn’t anyone else noticed that when these things proliferate (or when threads are high-jacked with religious and political commentary) that Piggington goes through a dry spell? I have begun avoiding topics on these subjects so don’t just tell me (or others) to avoid them. What bothers me is the negative impact on my favorite site.

I respectfully ask, can we leave it at the door, people?

Submitted by deadzone on July 2, 2007 - 10:00am.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a documentary from Moore or someone else soon about the real estate bust and all the fradulent activities leading up to it. Really this would be a perfect topic.

Submitted by citydweller on July 2, 2007 - 10:08am.

PD, I agree with your post. I wonder if there is some way the off topic forum threads could be listed somewhere other than under the "Active Forum Topics".

I really enjoy reading what Piggington people have to say about politics, etc. but I do agree that it does take away from the purpose of this blog.

PS - In the meantime, I promise not to start or contribute to anymore OT threads.

Submitted by blahblahblah on July 2, 2007 - 10:14am.

Good point. There is no reason for these postings anymore; I have been following them and I've distilled them all down to the following information:

* Al Gore is a poo-poo head smarty-pants. He is also fat. And a liar.

* Michael Moore is also a fat poo-poo head.

* Get your hands off of my money!

* If you have problems it is YOUR FAULT, you poo-poo head.

* If you disagree with me, you are a poo-poo head communist.

Submitted by PerryChase on July 2, 2007 - 10:30am.

Good summary, Concho.


Politics is a good side topic to Real Estate. It makes this forum fun and interesting. Politics makes the world go 'round.

Could it be that the right is feeling a little demoralized these days?

Submitted by FormerSanDiegan on July 2, 2007 - 10:33am.

I think the root of this problem is that the RE downturn is playing out slowly and methodically and is getting boring. The Mainstream media is all over the story and there is little intrigue as to when San Diego Real estate will head downward (since it has been happening for 20 months already).
Nobody wants to argue (I mean, have active discourse) anymore over what has become obvious, so we find other things to discuss.

Submitted by Doofrat on July 2, 2007 - 12:34pm.

Have you ever thought about starting a talk radio show? You could just sit there with that formula and probably make millions.

Submitted by jg on July 2, 2007 - 12:57pm.

I agree with Dr. MM/FSD. The stock market is taking its time before its crash. The economy is taking its time before its depression. The housing market is taking its time before its crater.

What, you want us to talk baseball, instead? Booooring.

Trust me, if you want to strictly limit topics to San Diego real estate, this place will quickly become as desolate as PS' site. Why? 'Cause nothing much is happening in San Diego real estate.

It is going to be a long, boring downturn. The real excitement will be elsewhere, in the stock market crash, the upcoming terrorist attacks here in the U.S., the social upheaval, etc.

Live with it, lady.

Submitted by DGH on July 2, 2007 - 1:54pm.

I'm a long time reader but I agree that lately there has been too much religion and politics. I used to like to read the forum posts for the helpful information about the real estate market. I've noticed the quality is slipping. I think I will just check in for Rich's posts from now on.

Submitted by LookoutBelow on July 2, 2007 - 10:09pm.

Sorry folks....politics, religion and investing go hand in hand...Like it or not, they each drive each other in a round a bout way, someway, somehow.

Submitted by lostkitty on July 3, 2007 - 4:10am.

Perry- well said: "Could it be that the right is feeling a little demoralized these days?"

Anyone who voted for Bush (either time, but especially the second, has got to be feeling like a poo-poo head loser). Everything the opposition warned about has come to fruition. The information was all there. Nothing "new" or unexpected has happened.

Politics is absolutely linked to RE. The mood of the people is an important barometer... as is their optimism or pessimism.

Scott Ritter was right...

Submitted by PD on July 3, 2007 - 12:25pm.

So jg, Perry and lostkitty think all this religion and politics talk is wonderful. Big surprise, they are the worst offenders.

I still think that this off-topic talk is driving away interest and RE postings on this blog. I do not think the fall in posting volume has been caused by a lack of movement or information in RE or the economy. There has been a lot happening there. Inventory is up, pendings are down, NODs and NOTs are going up, credit is tightening, big stuff is happening with hedge funds (Bear Sterns), etc, etc. I really think that most people don't want to hear all this blathering about religion and politics.

If you really must incessantly beat your drum, could you please refrain from hi-jacking RE threads where the unsuspecting person gets cold-cocked while innocently reading?

Submitted by jg on July 3, 2007 - 12:30pm.

PD, why are you summarizing inventory, pendings, NODs, etc. on this thread?

Just joking, PD.

You call it hijacking. I call inserting a tangentially-related -- but related -- comment. You may not find such illuminating or amusing. Oh well.

Hey, if it's not about resale homes in La Jolla's older neighborhoods, I don't want to hear about it!

Submitted by lostkitty on July 3, 2007 - 1:40pm.

PD -
This place has been slow since the very day powayseller was run off for the last time.
She was constantly adding information that we read and discussed on real estate. Rich provided the foundation, and keeps us up on big changes, but she was doing the everyday adding to the site. Boldly interpreting it as she saw fit. it did give us a lot to talk about.... whether we agreed with it all or not.
Interestingly enough, she was another of the active debaters of politics and religion. It did not slow up the conversation on real estate though, so you cannot say now that the reason this place is slow now is because of the off-topic conversation. We've all got time on our hands as we sit and watch, wait.
Big deal if we talk amongst ourselves.
I personally find the banter enlightening.

Back to my packing for San Diego!

Submitted by noone on July 3, 2007 - 2:55pm.

I too was irritated when a thread went on for 10 pages of my god is better than your god, and my president is better than your president. But now I'm enjoying it. Emotions run hot and jg stokes the flames better than anyone. The problem is that anyone who's been on this board for a while realizes what's going on, and it's just a waiting game. The only "new" housing news these days comes in monthly. The rest of the time there's not much else to talk about.

Submitted by PerryChase on July 3, 2007 - 5:16pm.

I do think the level of real estate discourse throttling down a notch on Piggington is due to the mainstream media being all over real estate stories. What's there left to talk about when all the papers are writing about real estate?

I remember about 1 1/2 years ago mentioning on Piggington that buyers were lying on their loan applications. I was accused of being a low-life and suggesting illegal things. Well, it turns out most of the recent sales were done with liar loans.

Everyday, I know check for the latest news. and I do and RSS of Roubini's daily digest, Calculated Risk and the Big Picture. That gives me all the real estate news that I need.

For entertainment purposes, I also do an RSS of OCrenter's excellent blog and some other blogs.

Piggington is useful for San Diego specific information. And unlike Ben's blog, Piggington has a give-and-take and feedback among posters.

To me the politics is fun and entertainment. I'm sitting-back, relaxing and enjoying the show -- the implosion of real estate and the Bush Administration.

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