Screw coffee

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Submitted by scaredyclassic on March 9, 2022 - 10:27am

I am an idiot sometimes. It's taken me 60 years to figure out that drinking coffee all day makes me more anxious. Since stopping a few months ago, I feel much calmer. This is so basic and obvious. Why did it take me so long to just stop?

I'm starting to come around to the Mormon view that coffee and alcohol are just bad news.

Submitted by The-Shoveler on March 9, 2022 - 10:40am.

Seriously I think I would have a very hard time giving up coffee in the morning and beer at night.

Oh well I guess there is always decaf and non-Alcoholic Beer.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on March 9, 2022 - 10:54am.

You will have no trouble stopping once you are done. But if you are not done, it will be almost impossible to stop.

Submitted by teaboy on March 9, 2022 - 10:54am.

Yes, my morning bm seems highly dependent on my morning brew.

tb

Submitted by Coronita on March 9, 2022 - 11:00am.

The-Shoveler wrote:
Seriously I think I would have a very hard time giving up coffee in the morning and beer at night.

Oh well I guess there is always decaf and non-Alcoholic Beer.

You never tried beer+coffee in the morning?

Submitted by The-Shoveler on March 9, 2022 - 11:04am.

LOL been quite a while (when I was much younger and not on a work day).
(at night a few times too LOL)

Submitted by scaredyclassic on March 9, 2022 - 11:14am.

The-Shoveler wrote:
LOL been quite a while (when I was much younger and not on a work day).
(at night a few times too LOL)

Speedball: coke and heroin.

Knuckleball? Coffee and beer?

Submitted by scaredyclassic on March 9, 2022 - 11:27am.

teaboy wrote:
Yes, my morning bm seems highly dependent on my morning brew.

tb

Me too. But the body adapts. You will live to poop again, even without arabica beans

Here’s what the official Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints website has to say:

In Mormon Doctrine and Covenants 89:8–9, the Lord forbids our using tobacco and “hot drinks,” which, Church leaders have explained, means tea and coffee. Modern prophets and apostles have frequently taught that the Word of Wisdom warns us against substances that can harm us or enslave us to addiction.

The official guidance also suggests never ordering at coffee shops or asking if there’s coffee in any drink.

Dammit. I still want some green tea...also, I did some research...the ban on hot drinks also include iced coffee, but excludes hot chocolate. So much for literal scriptural interpretation.

Submitted by sdrealtor on March 9, 2022 - 12:55pm.

The fruit of the vine is always the right answer

Submitted by will-pv on March 9, 2022 - 1:11pm.

You get some nasty headaches? I found I was drinking way too much at work, so I basically stopped after two cups and just have decaf the rest of the day.

I've thought about quitting recently after I heard a Michael Pollan interview about his experiences giving it up. He said it was basically all downsides, but the one good thing was he slept way better. His latest book has a whole section on caffeine that I've been meaning to read.

Submitted by Coronita on March 9, 2022 - 1:26pm.

I drink coffee black because I just like the taste. Decaf is fine with me. Tastes better than beer imho.

Submitted by svelte on March 10, 2022 - 9:29am.

I've never had a cup of coffee in my life. Ever. I've had a sip and it tasted so putrid I never was even tempted.

It was only about 10 years ago I figured out I should cut out all forms of caffeine (I was a big tea drinker). So 10 years ago I dropped tea. I've never been much for soda but if I'm ever backed into a position where that's the only choice I'll drink Root Beer. And yes I know not all RB is caffeine free - I check first.

Truthfully the only difference I noticed was that it was easier to fall asleep once I went caffeine-free. Still not incredibly easy for me, but a bit easier.

Submitted by Coronita on March 10, 2022 - 10:14am.

like everything else in life, moderation of stuff is good. Excessive stuff is bad...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/14/well/...

Just like wine has health benefits in moderation.

I'll take my coffee, black, no sugar , no cream.

Submitted by bibsoconner on March 10, 2022 - 11:33am.

Ah, but caffeine has been associated with lesser risk of Alzheimer's: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20182054/

Tumeric and marijuana have been similarly classified.*

Thus I put tumeric in my coffee in the morning, and smoke a joint with it for good measure.

*You can Google this all and do your own research. In all seriousness, the evidence for all three seems scanty at best. On the other hand, having watched my mom die from this horrible disease, I'd swallow bleach if I thought there was a reasonable chance it would prevent it.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on March 10, 2022 - 12:16pm.

Coronita wrote:
like everything else in life, moderation of stuff is good. Excessive stuff is bad...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/14/well/...

Just like wine has health benefits in moderation.

I'll take my coffee, black, no sugar , no cream.

I should clarify my problem is moderation. I do not have 1 or 2 cups of coffee. I drink giant mugs of it all day long. If I could have 1 or 2, I would be fine with that. But I cannot. Same with alcohol. So essentially it's taken me 60 years to see I can't control myself unless I use none.

I do however take 2 caps of turmeric every day. I believe in turmeric!!! Under control, no urge to take more turmeric. Weed, no, I fall right to sleep. Not fun. Didn't have this effect when I was 20.

Submitted by svelte on March 10, 2022 - 7:22pm.

Coronita wrote:
like everything else in life, moderation of stuff is good. Excessive stuff is bad...

...

I'll take my coffee, black, no sugar , no cream.

So apparently you like the taste of coffee.

I submit to you many people don't thus the attempt to disguise the taste with sugar, cream, espresso, latte, cappuccino, etc etc

stepping back even further, I don't see any benefit to caffeine and thus avoid it. If I saw a benefit I would relax that rule but I don't.

Submitted by svelte on March 10, 2022 - 7:26pm.

bibsoconner wrote:

*You can Google this all and do your own research. In all seriousness, the evidence for all three seems scanty at best. On the other hand, having watched my mom die from this horrible disease, I'd swallow bleach if I thought there was a reasonable chance it would prevent it.

Sorry to hear about your mother.

Because of that, we have a similar reaction to women and breast cancer. Most of the women in my life have had it and some have died from it. Broccoli is supposed to ward it off somewhat.

We eat a LOT of broccoli in our house and I've grown to love it. I never hated it, but now I love it.

Submitted by svelte on March 10, 2022 - 7:43pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:

I do however take 2 caps of turmeric every day. I believe in turmeric!!! Under control, no urge to take more turmeric. Weed, no, I fall right to sleep. Not fun. Didn't have this effect when I was 20.

Aha! So you're the one causing the Great Turmeric Shortage of 2022!

Scroll halfway down, to just above the photo of the red McCormick's caps.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2022-...

(the whole article is pretty interesting, actually)

Submitted by zk on March 11, 2022 - 10:45am.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nrLXHOoFFM

"Lotsa cream, lotsa sugar."

One of my favorite lines from Pulp Fiction.

Submitted by vproman on March 12, 2022 - 12:44am.

I went cold turkey on coffee back in December, from 3 cups a day to zero. Noticeable head-aches but tolerable. The worst thing was a couple nights where I experienced pain throughout my body when trying to sleep at night. No matter what position I tried, my body felt like it was burning. Eventually the night pains went away but man was it uncomfortable. I didn’t notice any improvement in sleep after the withdrawal symptoms wore off. Eventually I started drinking coffee again, but limited it to a single cup a day. I noticed my tolerance went way down and so drinking just a small cup made me feel like I had drank 3.

Submitted by barnaby33 on March 16, 2022 - 1:18pm.

I once had a long term girl friend that was allergic to chocolate cheese and wine. Other than sex with me, she had no joy in life.
Josh

Submitted by gzz on March 17, 2022 - 1:50pm.

Hot coffee gives me jitters, but i can and often do drink 4 cups of black cold coffee a day.

Yerba mate sparkling water is a nice change too, especially on a hot day. Better taste than black or green tea.

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