Quarter Turn or Full Turn valves?

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Submitted by flu on April 28, 2019 - 3:16pm

I'm in the process of replacing some water shut-off valves for my parents that have been on the house for 39 years...

What is the consensus on The type of valves to use? The old style full turn valves, or the newer 1/4 turn valves? Also, what brand? I use to use brasscraft, but they look pretty shitty these days, being that much of it is plastic.

Submitted by Hobie on April 28, 2019 - 3:39pm.

1/4 turn is the best. Fast and they are ball valves as opposed to the gate and seat type which tend to leak at the stem /and/or get corroded stuck.

Btw, calif regs has banned the good plumbing parts. Depot brass stuff is actually ok.

Submitted by flu on April 28, 2019 - 5:47pm.

Hobie wrote:

Btw, calif regs has banned the good plumbing parts. Depot brass stuff is actually ok.

Let me guess. miniscule amount of lead in brass?

Quote:

1/4 turn is the best. Fast and they are ball valves as opposed to the gate and seat type which tend to leak at the stem /and/or get corroded stuck.

The reason I ask is , I've been putting in 1/4 turn brasscrafts on my rentals....But today I went to go buy some for my parents home, the Home Depot guy insisted I get the full turn versus the 1/4 turn ... he told me he's a plumber by trade also.and that he's seen a lot of the 1/4 turn fail much earlier than the full turn, so he strongly recommended I get the #34 full turn versus the #35 1/4 turn

BTW... I am still surprised this lasted 39years... I guess they don't make these like they use to...supply linesupply line

Submitted by Hobie on April 28, 2019 - 6:07pm.

Right re the lead. Dunno if he is that informed ( everyone has own opinion) as the quality of all of the non-lead stuff is marginal. And we don't have a choice. Just don't get whats in your picture- with the flex already attached. Get the new stainless flex hose and a 1/4 turn and you are set.

Submitted by flu on April 28, 2019 - 7:15pm.

Thanks Hobie. Yes, I know. I always get stainless steel braided lines. separate from the shut-off valves.

But the irony to this is that when it's time to replace the hose lines, I generally replace the shutoff valve too ..

Done... Had to buy a $11 tool to pull the compression ring off the copper pipe ..Spent $35 total including the tool. 1 hr... L.A. plumber wanted $200...lol...

$165 towards my autocross tires and m ods fund...

donedone

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 29, 2019 - 2:18pm.

I prefer the quarter turn and the copper riser in chrome finish. Looks cleaner and nicer IMO. That’s just me. Maybe I care too much about aesthetics. The braided hoses collect dust

https://www.homedepot.com/p/BrassCraft-3...

https://www.amazon.com/GZILA-Outlet-Flan...

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