Penalty for mobility

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Submitted by Escoguy on December 11, 2021 - 12:27pm

When one considers that many landlords don't always track FULL inflation when raising rents, the longer a tenant stays, the longer there may be a modest or even great discount in rents vs market.

=Disincentive to move = fewer properties enter rental/some of sale market

Then when they move out, the landlord is grateful as there is the potential to move to market or a windfall.

On the flip side, if they never buy, then they don't get potential appreciation.

Submitted by XBoxBoy on December 11, 2021 - 2:58pm.

I would add to this that from a home owner's (or landlords) point of view, there are a number of factors discouraging mobility (or selling):

1) You would lose any tax subsidy due to Prop 13.
2) Prices have risen so much that many people can't afford anything near as nice as what they have, much less something better.
3) Rents haven risen just like house prices and so lots of rentals are cash positive.
4) When prices are going up so fast, why would you sell? This leads to a psychology of being more inclined to hold onto your current house.

Overall, it seems to me that the current situation has lead to a whole lot of "House Hording".

Submitted by barnaby33 on December 11, 2021 - 7:44pm.

That makes no sense. Housing demand comes from more people looking for housing than available. It's really that the economy fundamentally changed in the last 20 years. Sure there is inflation as well, but really this is about demand growth and lack of supply. As SD's population has increased it's income mixed has changed even more rapidly. While there are and will be plenty of poors the upper middle income and rich have increased markedly as a percentage of the population and they are driving housing prices.

Submitted by sdrealtor on December 12, 2021 - 11:37am.

Agreed! I remember arguing with CAR et al that this place was fundamentally changing and being laughed at. This is not our parents San Diego anymore and it quickly wont be ours anymore

Submitted by XBoxBoy on December 12, 2021 - 4:55pm.

barnaby33 wrote:
That makes no sense.

Which part are you saying makes no sense?

That landlords don't raise rents to fully track inflation?

That the longer a tenant stays the greater the discount they might be getting?

That there is a penalty for moving?

That a landlord might be happy when a tenant moves out because now they raise the rent?

That people get a tax subsidy from prop 13?

That prices have risen such that many people in San Diego couldn't afford their current residence?

Rents have risen just like house prices?

That with house prices rising people would be reluctant to sell?

That all of the above issues have encouraged people to hold onto their houses, or what I term "house hording"?

Submitted by Coronita on December 12, 2021 - 10:41pm.


Submitted by scaredyclassic on December 13, 2021 - 8:01am.

Natural rent control.

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