OT-Why I still hate the Prius

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Submitted by Navydoc on April 5, 2011 - 8:37am

I was going to resurrect the "Why do you hate the Prius" thread, but since I had already commented in that, I felt what happened yesterday warranted a new one.

It finally happened- I was hit by a Prius. I was traveling IN THE BIKE LANE on my way to the Shady Grove metro station when I suddenly became airborne. I was hit square from behind, bounced off the hood, rolled over the top of the car and landed on the ground behind it. My helmet was smashed (instead of my head-thank God and Bell helmets), the bike a twisted pretzel, and all my belongings strewn across the debris field, included all the blinking red LEDs I wear on my back. I was able to get up and out of the street, started collecting my stuff when the ambulance came to take me to the trauma center. The cop that examined the scene said from the point of impact my body was thrown 40 feet. I can't believe I'm alive. Of course I'm experiencing more pain than I've ever felt from the muscle strains, but once the road rash heals I should be just fine.

So why to I hate this Prius driver? Because he FLED THE SCENE! Fortunately another motorist chased him down and phoned in his tags, and the police got him late yesterday morning. He claims he didn't know he hit me. I weigh 200 lbs, there were 2 dents in his hood, one from my shoulder, the other from my helmet, and he claims he didn't notice. My only problem is I'll probably be in the desert when the court hearing comes up- but I'll deal with that through the Jag. This drivers swinish behavior is what I've observed in other Prius drivers when sharing the road with my bicycle.

This event occurred in almost the identical spot where I hit a fallen tree last September. I really can't wait to get back to California-I think Maryland is trying to kill me.

Submitted by afx114 on April 8, 2011 - 4:24pm.

Hey look, I found a video of NavyDoc riding around town: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3nMnr8ZirI

Submitted by bubble_contagion on April 8, 2011 - 8:17pm.

briansd1 wrote:
It's all an image thing.

Americans have love "don't mess with Texas" type bigness.

The Prius is too small and refined. It's something that an intellectual or a professor would drive. And we know that Americans don't like intellectuals and professors. They want some crassness and vulgarity.

The Prius is something that you most likely see in the cities or hip urban areas. So it's not something that real Americans can relate to.

Americans also like to tinker with their cars. The Prius is too complicated and takes an engineering degree to figure out. Not really a muscle car type vehicle that a high-school drop-out could work on.

I was told that back in the 1970s only professors and nerds drove small Toyotas and imports. By the late 1980s those brands became mainstream (except in the Midwest and Texas).

During the early days of Starbucks, fancy coffee was seen as elitist and drinking a latte was definitely un-American. But now, Starbucks is mainstream.

At one point, wine drinking was seen as too European and un-American. Now it's a must for the educated. In La Jolla or Carmel Valley, I'm sure that parents buy soy milk or rice milk for their kids.

We are moving on up....

As far as driving is concerned, most drivers don't drive at constant speeds. They accelerate and slow down as part of their natural way of driving... The Prius encourages drivers to drive at constant optimum speeds to save gas.

I don't drive a Prius but I'm a Prius lover. I like to be ahead the pack. Great technology and quality manufacturing will win out eventually.

There is also the Japanese car vs. American car issue. I am concerned about American car companies because their attempts to compete with the Prius haven't worked out. The most important is the Chevy Volt, although it has great technology, it is too expensive. It clearly shows that GM has not been able to embrace the concept that very efficient hybrid cars must be different. GM has compromised the car design to make it similar to conventional cars. A clear example is the Volt's huge fake chrome grill. It seems that GM believes Americans will not buy cars without grills. I hope the average American is more sophisticated than that.

Submitted by patb on April 8, 2011 - 8:53pm.

bubble_contagion wrote:

There is also the Japanese car vs. American car issue. I am concerned about American car companies because their attempts to compete with the Prius haven't worked out. The most important is the Chevy Volt, although it has great technology, it is too expensive. It clearly shows that GM has not been able to embrace the concept that very efficient hybrid cars must be different. GM has compromised the car design to make it similar to conventional cars. A clear example is the Volt's huge fake chrome grill. It seems that GM believes Americans will not buy cars without grills. I hope the average American is more sophisticated than that.

The Volt isn't meant to compete with the Prius.
The Volt is targeted at the Lexus and BMW and Mercedes crowd.

It does that very well.

Submitted by briansd1 on April 8, 2011 - 9:25pm.

patb wrote:

The Volt isn't meant to compete with the Prius.
The Volt is targeted at the Lexus and BMW and Mercedes crowd.

It does that very well.

huh? So why is it badged as a Chevy?

Submitted by equalizer on April 11, 2011 - 10:14pm.

svelte wrote:
Glad you're okay Navydoc.

Interesting phenomenon that you point out with Prius drivers, as has also been noted at this link I posted previously:

"Ever been cut off by a prius with an Obama sticker? It happens more often than it should. The tipping point for the One Less Prius sticker was nearly being hit by one such vehicle IN THE BIKE LANE on Sunset Blvd. The guy gave me the finger when I threw my hands up."

from:

http://nowhip.blogspot.com/2009/07/one-l...

I don't ever see this because I don't ride a bicycle. I might if they had dedicated separate paths where I need to ride, but sharing the roadway with autos is too dangerous for my blood.

But why you cyclists notice an increased danger from Prius owners is very interesting. Three possible reasons I can think of:

(1) Maybe they are generally less attentive drivers? I sometimes think that many Prius owners don't like visiting gas stations because they just don't like cars. Since they don't like cars, I wonder if that gives them poorer than average driving skills - maybe they don't take the time to hone those skills.

(2) Maybe they are envious of someone greener than they are?

(3) (thought I had a third possibility but have forgotten)

This would make an interesting case study...if one every gets done, let me know because I'd love to find out the psychology behind this behavior!


First, hope NavyDoc is feeling better!

I pulled up IIHS data and found that in small car segment that Prius [drivers] had fewest claims for bodily injury and lowest overall claims. Of course the age and stature of these drivers is the dominant factor for this data instead of the actual car.

Cars with highest losses bodily injury (2006-2008)
(Pretty much young male drivers)

[100 represents the average result for all vehicles in each loss coverage category]

Suzuki Forenza Small four-door models 205

Mitsubishi Lancer Small four-door models 181

Scion tC Small two-door models 172

Infiniti FX35 4dr Midsize luxury SUVs 171

Pontiac G5 Small two-door models 161

Chevrolet Cobalt Small two-door models 160

Dodge Magnum Large station wagons/minivans 160

Kia Spectra Small four-door models 156

Dodge Charger Large four-door models 156

Hyundai Tiburon Small two-door models 154
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Collision Rate
BMW 3 series 2dr 180
Prius 103

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Cars with fewest losses bodily injury claims

Chevrolet Corvette Midsize sports models 41

Infiniti M35 4dr 4WD Large luxury models 44

Chevrolet Corvette convertible Midsize sports models 48

Toyota Tundra double 4WD Large pickups 48

GMC Acadia 4dr 4WD Large SUVs 53

Mazda MX-5 Miata convertible Mini sports models 54

Toyota Highlander 4dr 4WD Midsize SUVs 57

Mercedes E class 4dr 4WD Large luxury models 57

Pontiac Solstice convertible Small sports models 58

BMW Z4 convertible Small sports models 58

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What's the lesson? Ride two wheelers in neighborhoods with all Corvettes!

http://www.iihs.org/research/hldi/compos...

http://www.iihs.org/research/hldi/compos...

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