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Submitted by moneymaker on January 6, 2017 - 8:07pm

Anybody have it? Wife just ordered it, so will be playing with it tomorrow when it gets here. Home automation here we go! Anybody have any interesting uses for it?

Submitted by spdrun on November 8, 2017 - 9:12am.

Kick out the residents who watch the most -- they're busybodies and or voyeurs. I don't want Peeping Tom neighbors.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on November 8, 2017 - 9:21am.

Why not use the busybodies as a resource to watch the cameras and bring stuff to our attention? There should be an app for that

Submitted by FlyerInHi on September 13, 2018 - 6:29pm.

I’m sure everyone heard about the cop who killed the neighbor.

Wouldn’t it be nice if there were surveillance cameras to document the comings of the cop and record any screaming and yelling that might have occurred? If all the neighbors had door bell cameras facing out, then we could recreate what happened.

Many homebuilders now include home automaton as part of the purchase. i understand that Lennar partnered with Amazon for an actual person to come out and setup for the new homeowner.

Submitted by spdrun on September 13, 2018 - 9:22pm.

Honestly, no matter what she did, she fucked up. It would be nice to see her slowly rot in solitary confinement (for her own protection in prison), or simply be hounded by public ire into jumping off a bridge.

The problem isn't that the sow didn't fuck up. It's clear that she did without a massive surveillance system snooping on everyone. It's that the American public and "justice" system are all too willing to give trigger-happy morons in uniform the benefit of the doubt.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on October 9, 2018 - 2:32pm.

Just thinking in terms of the future and AI.
What if you had a front door camera that automatically archives clips of all the people that walk through your front door? Cameras already do that but on a loop for a fixed period.
What if the information is kept forever? We would know if Kavanaugh was at party, wouldn’t we?

The new connected cars now keep GPS data. Anyone heard of law enforcement having access to data?

Submitted by spdrun on October 9, 2018 - 3:09pm.

No thanks. Better to accept some crime and risk than to give the pigs in power more power.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on October 10, 2018 - 8:34am.

I am wondefing because the door camera at my short term rental revealed some interesting info. The neighbor who is a southern god-fearing guy is quite a lady's man.

One White lady guest who rented my apartment had a parade of men visiting her everyday - black men, middle eastern (camera has sound also) and white men, chubby men and normal guys.

Of course, the existence of the camera was disclosed; and none of my business. But surveillance is very revealing of police abuse, etc...

Facial recognition with AI would easily allow automatic archival of video clips. We are only at the beginning of a new world of big data. In that world, Kavanaugh would have been caught. I wonder how he will rule when big data cases reach the Supreme Court.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on February 6, 2019 - 12:26pm.

I just installed this to control a water heater. With time of use, you don’t the water heater to run during peak. I love home automation. Don’t really like the big brother aspect, but for cheap, expedient convenience.... that’s what is available.

Aeotec Heavy Duty Smart Switch, Z-Wave Plus Home Security ON/OFF controller, 40 amps record electricity consumption
https://www.amazon.com/Aeotec-Security-c...

Submitted by FlyerInHi on February 6, 2019 - 12:50pm.

With privacy concerns, even if we ban certain services, what happens if devices send data cross borders to Russia?

Are we going to put up a firewall that prevents data from leaving the country?

Remember when we though extraterritorial data transfer would lead to the collapse of Russia and China? What goes around does come around.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on February 27, 2019 - 5:49pm.

Amazon now owns Ring.

Seems like Home automation is the next frontier in consumer electronics.

I don’t think is a problem with SFRs but condo HOA boards are grappling with door bell cameras and smart door locks. I say go for it. Let people install what they like as long as there are no dangling wires.

Another issue is that many door bells are set to the side. Design changes need to be made so that the cameras are facing out. Developers out there... there’s a demand for smart homes. Maybe work with Ring and Nest to develop PoE cameras that can be easily plugged at all corners and outside windows.

Lennar already partners with Amazon to pre-install PoE doorbell cameras. But there needs to be more cameras around the house.

Maybe due to skyrocketing rents, but one condo community where we have been encouraging Nest and Ring cameras is now a much nicer community free of riff raffs. It’s a garden community like a motel with doors facing directly out. I love the crowd sourced surveillance state!

Submitted by spdrun on February 28, 2019 - 11:28am.

Yeah. That's great until you put a "clown camera" up and it happens to point at the neighbor's window and send footage of their 14 year old daughter changing to Amazon's servers. Your right to film ends at someone else's private property. Don't be surprised to see your cameras cut off with a fireaxe and thrown in the trash.

The conditions for installing a camera should be:
(1) Local recording only. Get a DVR or fuck off -- no need to extend Amazon's surveillance network.
(2) No pointing at neighbors' homes or windows.

Anyway, Amazon should be giving away the things for free, not charging people for the privilege of adding to their spying network.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on February 28, 2019 - 1:49pm.

Spdrun, I agree on the ethics. However I’m focused on the possibilities of technology. I will leave it to others to work out the ethics.

Amazon has a new facial recognition patent that they could use to tie to public databases. Very interesting!

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 30, 2019 - 10:33am.

I was looking a new houses this weekend. Many come with door bell cameras pre-installed. But the cameras face to the side. It would be better if the cameras point straight out so you can film people approaching.

Submitted by spdrun on April 30, 2019 - 5:06pm.

It would be better to drill out the camera's lense after buying the house. Why become part of Scumazon or Google's surveillance network?

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