OT - who will run in 2020?

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Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 17, 2018 - 12:54pm

August 17,2018
I like Michael Avenatti. If he runs I will give him a nice contribution.
“When they go low, we hit them harder”
https://youtu.be/DDOplqohYrg

April 20, 2019
So I am now supporting Pete Buttigieg -- from sleazeball to smart inspirational candidate.
https://youtu.be/rJCwUwziRvY
https://youtu.be/y97QknIG-Eo
https://youtu.be/yxH30Nx17H4

It's good to have young millennial guy in the running.

October 15, 2020
I am now supporting Elizabeth Warren. I like the woman fighter. Mayor Pete is too lame.

Submitted by Myriad on August 17, 2018 - 1:15pm.

Trump - Putin 2020

Submitted by The-Shoveler on August 17, 2018 - 1:25pm.

Actually I would like to see Bernie take another run at it.

I would not be surprised to see Trump not run in 2020.

And the divide continues:

And in this corner the candidate from the extreme radical right is....

In the other corner we have the opponent from the extreme radical left is....

Won't be long we will tear the country apart.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 17, 2018 - 2:20pm.

Shoveler, what exactly about the Democratic platform is extreme left?
Liberalism and free trade. If anyhing the Democrats have moved to the right.
The Economist has a good video.
https://youtu.be/KO8OxfFiVv8

The symmetry that you think exists is part of fake news and the right wing narrative. Definitely not objective from a political science standpoint.

Submitted by DataAgent on August 17, 2018 - 2:26pm.

Myriad wrote:
Trump - Putin 2020

If he runs, Trump is unstoppable in 2020. Otherwise, we will get our first female president... Ivanka.

Submitted by The-Shoveler on August 17, 2018 - 3:10pm.

San Diego not so much, but LA or San-Francisco.

California will be first to split IMO.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 20, 2018 - 12:52pm.

Omarosa!
She's very smart in a Trump way. And very well spoken -- better than Trump or Sarah Sanders. She should run for something.

https://youtu.be/bOBDw5tJFoQ

Submitted by phaster on August 24, 2018 - 2:52pm.

huh,... the better question is

SADLY,... WHO WILL RUN vs WHAT'S NEEDED

Given we've had way too many politicians w/ law and business back grounds,... which is how we arrived at the place where we are (i.e. up $hit creek)

Quote:

Why Trump Supporters Believe He Is Not Corrupt

What the president’s supporters fear most isn’t the corruption of American law, but the corruption of America’s traditional identity.

...Once you grasp that for Trump and many of his supporters, corruption means less the violation of law than the violation of established hierarchies, their behavior makes more sense. Since 2014, Trump has employed the phrase rule of law nine times in tweets. Seven of them refer to illegal immigration.

Why were Trump’s supporters so convinced that Clinton was the more corrupt candidate even as reporters uncovered far more damning evidence about Trump’s foundation than they did about Clinton’s? Likely because Clinton’s candidacy threatened traditional gender roles. For many Americans, female ambition—especially in service of a feminist agenda—in and of itself represents a form of corruption. “When female politicians were described as power-seeking,” noted the Yale researchers Victoria Brescoll and Tyler Okimoto in a 2010 study, “participants experienced feelings of moral outrage (i.e., contempt, anger, and/or disgust).”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...

So my wish for the next POTUS would be for woman w/ a solid science back ground,... (FYI its not out of the realm of possibility given)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel

https://www.quora.com/Which-topic-did-An...

so for your consideration,...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKknMJBV8bQ

https://chemistry.princeton.edu/seminars...

http://www.314action.org/board-1/

thoughts?

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 24, 2018 - 5:08pm.

phaster wrote:

So my wish for the next POTUS would be for woman w/ a solid science back ground,...

I so much agree with what you just posted, especially this part.

I would like an unemotional, rational woman to run the country. Angela Merkel and Nordic politicians fit the mold.

I don't understand why people feel threatened by powerful women. As a man, I'd love a woman to take care of me and bring home the bacon. Less stress for me.

The future belongs to women... they do better in school than men and they are getting more educated.

I don't understand why people are anxious over change. Just embrace it, make the best of it, and enjoy watching the world. Change is interesting.

You know, my dog liked to take trips to the beach, mountains, meet different people. Interesting!

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 24, 2018 - 5:12pm.

I think, one day, Stormy Daniels should run for governor of California. She's at least as smart as Donald Trump, if not smarter.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 27, 2018 - 11:08pm.

The-Shoveler wrote:
San Diego not so much, but LA or San-Francisco.

California will be first to split IMO.

I was talking to a friend over dinner. I think America could eventually break up because the electoral college, gerrymandered districts, and 2 senators per state, mean that representation is not population proportional for Democrats and urban center. . Liberals are just too nice. I believe if it were the other way around, the country would have split already.

The best thing that could happen would be to abolish the federal income tax and shrink the Federal government by 2/3, get rid of transfer payments by the Feds, and let states run their affairs.

Submitted by spdrun on August 28, 2018 - 10:23am.

The problem with this is that states share resources. What if Arizona ends up with lax environmental regulations and pollutes California's air or water supply?

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 28, 2018 - 7:30pm.

spdrun wrote:
The problem with this is that states share resources. What if Arizona ends up with lax environmental regulations and pollutes California's air or water supply?

Not too worried. We live next to Mexico without any problems, or problems big enough to detract from the desirability of SD.

Submitted by spdrun on August 28, 2018 - 8:16pm.

Can't Imperial Beach get rather -- shitty?

Submitted by FlyerInHi on September 2, 2018 - 12:44pm.

spdrun wrote:
Can't Imperial Beach get rather -- shitty?

Yeah but housing in imperial beach and further north don’t seem to be affected. The free market decided that imperial beach is more valuable than Detroit.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on September 2, 2018 - 1:08pm.

Speaking of splitting up, it’s only a matter of time before Texas goes the way of California. The process is slower than I wish, but remember when Duncan Hunter Sr and Bob Dornan represented western parts of the state. We just need push the deplorables eastward. For Texas, that would be towards the Deep South.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opin...

I think that technology allows urban centers around the world to connect and trade with one another without depending so much on the rural areas. The cultural divide will only widen. Perhaps the idea of nation states is declining. Maybe are revering to cities states as centers of trade and culture.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on September 11, 2018 - 1:17am.

So who do you think can match Trump on the debate stage and respond to his name calling?

Michael Avenatti would do a good job.
https://youtu.be/_DpHHB6nAbw

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 19, 2019 - 11:40pm.

I wanted Avenatti because it would have been satisfying to have a fighter give Republicans a taste of their own medicine, but he’s no longer in that running.

Just listened to Pete Buttigieg. Young guy speaks so well and knows so much. I’m impressed.
https://youtu.be/x2DMVu6CLZ4

Submitted by spdrun on April 20, 2019 - 7:58am.

I'm not convinced that a gay president is electable, even in 2020.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 20, 2019 - 10:58am.

spdrun wrote:
I'm not convinced that a gay president is electable, even in 2020.

Gay or straight, Pete Buttigieg is the ideal guy. I mean, who is so smart and yet so humble? Very inspiring. He makes me want to be a better person.

The other side of me wants an asshole like Trump who will make Republicans squirm like Trump horrified the left.

I was listening to Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson talk; and man, those guys are douche bags. They and their Fox Newa followers need to experience some of the same medicine.

Submitted by svelte on April 20, 2019 - 12:23pm.

FlyerInHi wrote:
I wanted Avenatti because it would have been satisfying to have a fighter give Republicans a taste of their own medicine, but he’s no longer in that running.

Boy, after reading about all of Avenatti's shenanigans, I bet you regret endorsing that messed up individual.

He just seemed sleazy to me since the first time I saw him speak on TV. He just came across that way.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 20, 2019 - 1:21pm.

svelte wrote:
FlyerInHi wrote:
I wanted Avenatti because it would have been satisfying to have a fighter give Republicans a taste of their own medicine, but he’s no longer in that running.

Boy, after reading about all of Avenatti's shenanigans, I bet you regret endorsing that messed up individual.

He just seemed sleazy to me since the first time I saw him speak on TV. He just came across that way.

I don't regret supporting Avenatti. I would still send him a nice contribution check if he got the nomination. I love Avenatti's beautiful expensive suits, his IQ, his hardball tactics, his love of money and the high life. Why not? *Shrug* Nothing Trump didn't do.

Submitted by temeculaguy on April 21, 2019 - 1:32am.

FlyerInHi wrote:
svelte wrote:
FlyerInHi wrote:
I wanted Avenatti because it would have been satisfying to have a fighter give Republicans a taste of their own medicine, but he’s no longer in that running.

Boy, after reading about all of Avenatti's shenanigans, I bet you regret endorsing that messed up individual.

He just seemed sleazy to me since the first time I saw him speak on TV. He just came across that way.

I don't regret supporting Avenatti. I would still send him a nice contribution check if he got the nomination. I love Avenatti's beautiful expensive suits, his IQ, his hardball tactics, his love of money and the high life. Why not? *Shrug* Nothing Trump didn't do.

Way to double down. I believe the saying goes "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 21, 2019 - 10:09pm.

For the business minded, Pete Buttigieg speaks about what he learned about using data at McKinsey.

https://youtu.be/bXy75MunIdc

Submitted by FlyerInHi on April 24, 2019 - 11:02pm.

OMG, I’m in love. Pete Buttigieg wants a faster train between south bend and Chicago. Said we shouldn’t settle for the slowest trains in the developed world.

Harvard, Oxford, Rhodes scholar, military officer. He did a mock monetary policy project in HS. Concert pianist, read tons of books, speaks 8 languages, knows Age of Enlightenment philosophy, author, McKinsey consultant. what can the guy not do?

Submitted by temeculaguy on April 25, 2019 - 1:01am.

His resume is impressive and he checks most of the democratic boxes. I perused his election website and can't find much policy, just platitudes. I'm glad he surpassed Beto and Kamila, but he has a steep hill to climb to Bernie and Biden for the nomination and until he takes policy positions he's got Beto's "all hat and no cattle" problem. His opponents will press him on policy as the debates whittle down the field. It may not be your experience but "progressive"and "Socialist" is a negative in the general election. My guess at this point, Biden vs Trump, sorta final answer unless Michelle Obama enters the race. Schultz is the wildcard, he speaks to independents and those not entrenched, I certainly liked what he had to say, but I voted for Perot so my opinion should be summarily ignored.

Submitted by NeetaT on April 25, 2019 - 11:36am.

Oh, yes, sorry guys, I am voting for Trump again. I have benefitted under his administration more than any other administration. Make CA great, get rid of all the democrats.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 27, 2019 - 11:50am.

Although I am voting for a Democrat, I still need to donate $485 to Trump. Flu reminded me that I lost a $500 bet. I am a man of my word so I already bought $15 of Trump plastic straws.

I want a Democrat Trump. I don't want a nice guy or gal. I want a tough guy who will stand for liberal cities at the exclusion of deplorable areas.

I cannot support Elizabeth Warren. She wants to subsidize rural internet with our hard earned money. No. Let the free market and the profit motive allocate resources.

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/opinions...

I think a good win-win would be to build coal plants in red areas so we can mandate electric cars in blue areas. Then we all have what we want.

Submitted by The-Shoveler on August 27, 2019 - 1:19pm.

Well You will have what you want LOL (be careful what you wish for however you may be one of the % paying for it).

I would like to get an electric car but IMO they are still too expensive and not ready for wide scale adoption.

(not enough charging stations, too long to charge etc...).

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 28, 2019 - 2:03pm.

The-Shoveler wrote:

I would like to get an electric car but IMO they are still too expensive and not ready for wide scale adoption.

(not enough charging stations, too long to charge etc...).

Does your wife have her own car? If so, the gas car can serve a different purpose.

Don’t expect your electric car to do everything. Get a cheap electric car — a new eGolf or a used electric. It will change your life. If you’re thrifty, you will love being to drive for pennies.

Or splurge and get a Tesla for luxury and more aspirational reasons. Tesla owners love their cars and can’t brag enough, even if they are the type to believe climate change is a hoax. I’m waiting for the electric F150 to be a status symbol in red states.

BTW, it’s so nice to mock people who wait at Costco for gas. They are the one suffering from range anxiety! It’s a huge time saver not to have to fill up or do oil changes.

Submitted by The-Shoveler on August 29, 2019 - 9:33am.

My Wife does have a car, she ends up needing to drive "hundreds" of miles in a single day about once a week or so.

At this stage having an all electric car is like putting a Limiting-governor on what you can do with your life.

Hopefully they will solve the charging time issue and number of charging stations, (price as well.).
Not there yet.

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