OT: Lol young people.....

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Submitted by Coronita on May 29, 2014 - 2:32pm

Lol....

Youngster: Hi FLU, can you help me with my app I'm writing.

FLU: Uh ok....What do you need help with?

Youngster: I'm trying to run the Hello World app that on the website, but it's old and not working..

FLU: Uh, ok. It's been there for many years, and it should work. Where do you think it's not working?

Youngster: I click on a button, and nothing happens..

FLU: Uh, ok.... Did you verify your callback function that responds to you button is being called?

Youngster: Yes it works. But it doesn't do anything. It doesn't open the second screen.

FLU: How did you verify it works?

Youngster: Ok, I think it works, I didn't actually check....

FLU: Ok, how about you first check that that's working.

Youngster: How do I do that?

FLU: Well the tutorial talks about how you can add a log/debug statement that prints stuff out when it's called.

Youngster: Where is the log file printed out?

FLU: The tutorial talks about using a tool called adb...

Youngster: Great. What do I do with it?

FLU: The tutorial talks about using "adb logcat"

Youngster: Great, what do I do with it..

FLU: You write a debug statement in your code, and it will be shown in the logcat window.

Youngster: Great. How do I write a log statement?

FLU: The tutorial discusses the "Log" class.

Youngster: Great. How do I send a a web service request to Company's XYZ webservice.

FLU: I have never worked with Company XYZ webservice, but did you first check if they have a library to do this?

Youngster: No they don't have anything.

FLU: Are you sure?

Youngster: Yes..

FLU: (googling Company XYZ)... Their website under "developers" section, includes a "library" you can use to talk to their web service.

Youngster: Great. Does the library work with the phone platform I'm trying to use...

FLU: According to the website, there's a library specifically built for the phone platform you're trying to develop on....

Youngster: Oh..Do you have any pointers on how I can use it?

FLU: Step 1. Unzip the contents of the library.
Step 2. Check if there's a README or UsersGuide... I have no idea. Never used their libraries before...

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Does anyone read anymore, or is everyone too busy facebooking and twittering???

Submitted by The-Shoveler on May 29, 2014 - 2:44pm.

I would answer but there is this bright shiny thing blinking on my screen I have to check out.

Submitted by ucodegen on May 29, 2014 - 3:14pm.

I presume that it is an app on Android. There is also an emulator on which you can test and get debug output to a screen. You can also use the dev env to also output back to the dev PC through USB and see the diag messages.

Sounds like the youngster wants the whole solution dropped on their lap so they can declare success w/o any effort.

I don't consider myself even close to an Android expert.

Submitted by all on May 29, 2014 - 3:22pm.

Is that a neighbor's kid or a coworker?

Submitted by Coronita on May 29, 2014 - 3:37pm.

all wrote:
Is that a neighbor's kid or a coworker?

Employee....I don't know the person, just randomly called me...I guess since I'm the resident mobile expert...(which in itself is a joke).....

See what I have to deal with?

Submitted by UCGal on May 29, 2014 - 9:41pm.

Wow. Just wow.

Submitted by Coronita on May 29, 2014 - 11:39pm.

I learned a new acronym today from a colleague when I told him about this...

RTFM....

I would have never known....

Submitted by Hatfield on May 29, 2014 - 11:43pm.

Perhaps you can have some fun with LMGTFY

http://bit.ly/vXtvlP

Submitted by an on May 30, 2014 - 12:02am.

flu wrote:
I learned a new acronym today from a colleague when I told him about this...

RTFM....

I would have never known....

Hehe, I'm surprised you never heard of RTFM. Although, my last company's slogan was "Life's too short for user manual" :-).

Submitted by sdduuuude on May 30, 2014 - 1:23am.

When people ask me what RTFM stands for, I tell them "Read the Manual First" snicker, snicker.

Submitted by Coronita on May 30, 2014 - 10:26am.

...and the dude keeps emailing me and emailing me today.....

I think I'm going to change my voicemail for today...

"

Hello, I'm not here today. But if you need assistance with Java programming questions,

push 1 for Bangalore
push 2 for China
push 3 for Taiwan
push 4 for Korea

"

Submitted by an on May 30, 2014 - 12:19pm.

flu wrote:
...and the dude keeps emailing me and emailing me today.....

I think I'm going to change my voicemail for today...

"

Hello, I'm not here today. But if you need assistance with Java programming questions,

push 1 for Bangalore
push 2 for China
push 3 for Taiwan
push 4 for Korea

"


LOL

Submitted by all on May 30, 2014 - 12:42pm.

I don't get it. If that is a side project he should not be working on it (i.e. contacting you) during business hours. And if it is not a side project someone likely made a mistake assigning the task to your coworker.

Submitted by an on May 30, 2014 - 1:45pm.

all wrote:
I don't get it. If that is a side project he should not be working on it (i.e. contacting you) during business hours. And if it is not a side project someone likely made a mistake assigning the task to your coworker.

Why would it be a mistake? There's nothing wrong with learning new stuff and expanding your horizon and area of expertise. In an engineering profession, you would want to be given these type of opportunities vs being put in a corner doing the same stuff over and over and over again. This youngster is just lazy and not RTFM.

Submitted by Coronita on May 30, 2014 - 2:41pm.

all wrote:
I don't get it. If that is a side project he should not be working on it (i.e. contacting you) during business hours. And if it is not a side project someone likely made a mistake assigning the task to your coworker.

He's a junior person assigned to the project. No idea who/what they are doing....There's nothing wrong with not knowing how to do it... But what is very funny is, if this was a test of how well someone can adapt to new things, this would be the contrarian indicator.

Submitted by an on May 30, 2014 - 3:09pm.

flu wrote:
all wrote:
I don't get it. If that is a side project he should not be working on it (i.e. contacting you) during business hours. And if it is not a side project someone likely made a mistake assigning the task to your coworker.

He's a junior person assigned to the project. No idea who/what they are doing....There's nothing wrong with not knowing how to do it... But what is very funny is, if this was a test of how well someone can adapt to new things, this would be the contrarian indicator.

This is also what separate engineers from developers or worse yet "devs".

Submitted by CDMA ENG on May 30, 2014 - 4:02pm.

AN wrote:
flu wrote:
all wrote:
I don't get it. If that is a side project he should not be working on it (i.e. contacting you) during business hours. And if it is not a side project someone likely made a mistake assigning the task to your coworker.

He's a junior person assigned to the project. No idea who/what they are doing....There's nothing wrong with not knowing how to do it... But what is very funny is, if this was a test of how well someone can adapt to new things, this would be the contrarian indicator.

This is also what separate engineers from developers or worse yet "devs".

No it doesn't...

I have met plenty of engineers that want to be spoon fed as well...

CE

Submitted by an on May 30, 2014 - 10:53pm.

CDMA ENG wrote:
AN wrote:
flu wrote:
all wrote:
I don't get it. If that is a side project he should not be working on it (i.e. contacting you) during business hours. And if it is not a side project someone likely made a mistake assigning the task to your coworker.

He's a junior person assigned to the project. No idea who/what they are doing....There's nothing wrong with not knowing how to do it... But what is very funny is, if this was a test of how well someone can adapt to new things, this would be the contrarian indicator.

This is also what separate engineers from developers or worse yet "devs".

No it doesn't...

I have met plenty of engineers that want to be spoon fed as well...

CE


You mean devs :)

Submitted by no_such_reality on May 31, 2014 - 6:53am.

flu wrote:
I learned a new acronym today from a colleague when I told him about this...

RTFM....

I would have never known....

You should warn him about the ID 10 T errors.

BTW, I think he did quite well in adapting to a new request.

He PICKED up the phone and GOT answers!

All joking aside, the behavior you saw is really common place in Gen Y and millenials. One person does, 100 copy it from them.

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