OT: LOL... All you folks that are trying to eat organic from places like Whole Foods....

User Forum Topic
Submitted by Coronita on January 31, 2011 - 8:00pm

LOL... Save your money...... Whole Foods = Whole Paycheck which no longer equals organic....

Monsanto 1, Organic Lovers 0

http://www.prwatch.org/node/9903

Whole Foods Market Caves to Monsanto
Submitted by Anne Landman on January 28, 2011 - 3:09pm

WholeFoodsMarketAfter 12 years of battling to stop Monsanto's genetically-engineered (GE) crops from contaminating the nation's organic farmland, the biggest retailers of "natural" and "organic" foods in the U.S., including Whole Foods Market (WFM), Organic Valley and Stonyfield Farm, have agreed to stop opposing mass commercialization of GE crops, like Monsanto's controversial Roundup Ready alfalfa. In exchange for dropping their opposition, WFM has asking for "compensation" to be paid to organic farmers for "any losses related to the contamination of his crop." Under current laws, Genetically-Modified Organisms (GMOs) are not subject to any pre-market safety testing or labeling. WFM is abandoning its fight with biotech companies in part because two thirds of the products they sell are not certified organic anyway, but are really conventional, chemical-intensive and foods that may contain GMOs and that they market as "natural" despite this. Most consumers don't know the difference between "natural" and "certified organic" products. "Natural" products can come from crops and animals fed nutrients containing GMOs. "Certified Organic" products are GMO-free. WFM and their main distributor, United Natural Foods, maximize profits by selling products labeled "natural" at premium organic prices.

Submitted by jpinpb on January 31, 2011 - 9:16pm.

Whole Foods comments on USDA Disappoints No Regulations on GE Alfalfa

Stonyfield also comments.

It's just a sickening thing to have Monsanto control food like this.

Submitted by desmond on February 1, 2011 - 9:41am.

I am not a organic buyer, but no need to laugh at people that do. Many times you try to do what you think is right, healthy, good for the environment, etc., and many times you find out later it was not, you do the best you that you can do.

Submitted by hbuzz on February 1, 2011 - 9:41am.

Why is this a LOL moment?
It's an extremely slanted quote you managed to find. I don't think WFM abandoned the fight "...in part because two thirds of the products they sell are not certified organic anyway...". They gave up the fight because USDA and Monsanto ran them over.
Also, the story implies that WFM is tricking prople to buy "natural" food. Natural can mean that it does not contain preservatives, colorings, or hormones. It just happens to be that some ingredient makes it ineligible to be certified organic.
Sickening indeed.

Submitted by Coronita on February 1, 2011 - 10:34am.

deleted

Submitted by blahblahblah on February 1, 2011 - 11:07am.

LOL - now all of those dum-dums who try to eat healthy will get cancer just like us thrifty smarties who buy the $2.50/gallon hormone milk, GMO corn salty snacks and HFCS sodas in bulk at the big-box store. LOL LOL LOL. Hey look "The Bachelor" is back on and the Super Bowl is coming up. Time to hit Costco and stock up on Doritos and Mr. Pibb. LOL LOL LOL.

Submitted by Jazzman on February 1, 2011 - 11:28am.

Funny, I never really saw them as an organic, healthy eaters paradise. More of a deli with foreign goodies, and salads to boot. If you are a foodie, you go there, if you are a burger chomper you don't. The fact they were battling against contaminants in the first place is in their favor. Expensive? Too expensive to fill the basket.

Submitted by UCGal on February 1, 2011 - 11:42am.

I've never been a big fan of Whole Paycheck... too expensive. But I do buy organic... at places like Henries and the La Jolla Farmers market.

The way Monsanto goes after farmers who store seed is downright evil.

I will still make choices to reduce the amount of crap - including buying milk that is rBGH free. I don't need round up tolerance in my food and hormones in my milk, and antibiotics in my chicken.

LOL all you want. Some of us are saddened by the fact that the USDA and Monsanto have no concern with family farms, food safety, etc.

Submitted by Coronita on February 1, 2011 - 11:53am.

I don't think you folks sense the irony here....

For all the bashing about all the crap that comes out of overseas about food safety and several have touted about food product safety...Then we have this sort of crap that goes on....

I'll LOLing because I'm deciding what's the better way me and my family will die... Eating fish from the gulf, eating fish from overseas bathed in mercury bath, or eating GM food made by monsanto...

Makes you kinda wonder, are food products from china really that much worse off than stuff from here? Are we *really* that much better off...It's definitely making me think twice....

After all, we know it's not only the genetic modifications that's screwy in itself (they are)...It's that their doing it so they can spray tons and tons of pesticides on the goods so that they can kill bugs and weeds without killing the produce.... But don't worry, I'm sure all those pesticides are perfectly safe for human consumption...

Submitted by blahblahblah on February 1, 2011 - 12:18pm.

Flu you have a dark sense of humor if this makes you laugh! To me it is just depressing. It is hard to avoid the poisons.

Submitted by Coronita on February 1, 2011 - 12:40pm.

CONCHO wrote:
Flu you have a dark sense of humor if this makes you laugh! To me it is just depressing. It is hard to avoid the poisons.

.Sometimes when things are this bad, can you really do anything else but laugh it off???Seriously, damned if you do damned if you don't..Neither laughing or crying is really going to make a damn difference on the outcome, so you might as well laugh it off

Thinking about growing your own organic veggies. Double check your the soil you are using and the fertilizer,etc. Good luck finding stuff that isn't somehow doctored.

The way I look at it, despite all this crap, life expectancy is still much better on average than it was 50 years ago... At least I think it is... So I guess it's a tradeoff...

The bad news is that with all the chemicals we put in our bodies, when we get buried, it's probably harder these days for our bodies to decompose...since our bodies are soaked in so much preservatives. And bugs and insects won't be eating us...Afterall, bugs/insects are smarter than us. They know these chemicals will kill them... Lol.....

...Where's my shot of prozac...

Submitted by davelj on February 1, 2011 - 1:00pm.

CONCHO wrote:
It is hard to avoid the poisons.

As in the case of bacteria, how is your body going to build up a resistance if you don't introduce it into your system? Only in a country of such abundance would people be up in arms over genetically-engineered food. I'm certain the folks in Africa are apoplectic. Genetically-engineered food? Bring it on. Now, where are my robots!?!?

Submitted by briansd1 on February 1, 2011 - 1:36pm.

davelj wrote:
Genetically-engineered food? Bring it on.

I'm with you on this.

I'm into healthy eating and I'm more worried about chemicals, hormones and antibiotics than genetic engineering. A plant is plant; and an animal is an animal notwithstanding some genetic mods.

That said, I see much bigger waste in the lawns full of fertilizer and chemicals people have a home. Why not have a vegetable garden at every house?

Submitted by no_such_reality on February 1, 2011 - 5:09pm.

flu wrote:
I don't think you folks sense the irony here....

For all the bashing about all the crap that comes out of overseas about food safety and several have touted about food product safety...Then we have this sort of crap that goes on....

I'll LOLing because I'm deciding what's the better way me and my family will die... Eating fish from the gulf, eating fish from overseas bathed in mercury bath, or eating GM food made by monsanto...

Makes you kinda wonder, are food products from china really that much worse off than stuff from here? Are we *really* that much better off...It's definitely making me think twice....

After all, we know it's not only the genetic modifications that's screwy in itself (they are)...It's that their doing it so they can spray tons and tons of pesticides on the goods so that they can kill bugs and weeds without killing the produce.... But don't worry, I'm sure all those pesticides are perfectly safe for human consumption...

Recent shopping trip for 'healthy' baby food:

Gerber Organic Brown Rice Infant cereal.

Ingredients - 100% organic whole grain rice.

Made in China.

Stop, back up. Double check. USDA Organic - check, infant cereal- check, whole grain rice - check. Made in China.

... I started to have a facial tic at this point.

It's organic and good for the environment and my baby, but I'm grinding it up in China (A bellweather in consumer safety) and then putting it in a box, in another box, in a steel container and loading it on boat that is basically burning asphalt to ship it 10000 kilometers across the planet.

Submitted by Coronita on February 1, 2011 - 5:37pm.

no_such_reality wrote:
flu wrote:
I don't think you folks sense the irony here....

For all the bashing about all the crap that comes out of overseas about food safety and several have touted about food product safety...Then we have this sort of crap that goes on....

I'll LOLing because I'm deciding what's the better way me and my family will die... Eating fish from the gulf, eating fish from overseas bathed in mercury bath, or eating GM food made by monsanto...

Makes you kinda wonder, are food products from china really that much worse off than stuff from here? Are we *really* that much better off...It's definitely making me think twice....

After all, we know it's not only the genetic modifications that's screwy in itself (they are)...It's that their doing it so they can spray tons and tons of pesticides on the goods so that they can kill bugs and weeds without killing the produce.... But don't worry, I'm sure all those pesticides are perfectly safe for human consumption...

Recent shopping trip for 'healthy' baby food:

Gerber Organic Brown Rice Infant cereal.

Ingredients - 100% organic whole grain rice.

Made in China.

Stop, back up. Double check. USDA Organic - check, infant cereal- check, whole grain rice - check. Made in China.

... I started to have a facial tic at this point.

It's organic and good for the environment and my baby, but I'm grinding it up in China (A bellweather in consumer safety) and then putting it in a box, in another box, in a steel container and loading it on boat that is basically burning asphalt to ship it 10000 kilometers across the planet.

Lol... That's the irony, isn't it???? Sure, the food is organic... What do you think they use for fertilizer...Obviously, some for some of these farms, real fertilizer is too expensive... Next best thing might be some "natural fertilizer", if you know what I mean. I kid, I kid.... Sort of..

And when in doubt, next time you check, you might as well look to see where your toothpaste is made these days. If you're spending less than $2/tube, I'm pretty confident it's not made here...

Anyway, don't buy baby food. Make your own...Get yourself one of these...

http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Bullet-MBR-1...

That is, if you don't mind that they are made overseas too, and you feel ok whether the plastic cup is ok....

Submitted by jpinpb on February 1, 2011 - 5:31pm.

NSR - this is something that just makes no sense. How can it possible be cost effective? It almost makes me think that China is not giong to demand to be paid as long as we ship our jobs to them and we buy their products. The whole fair trade thing is just a ploy. There is an arrangement. This just proves the absurdity of the situation.

Submitted by Coronita on February 1, 2011 - 5:34pm.

jpinpb wrote:
NSR - this is something that just makes no sense. How can it possible be cost effective? It almost makes me think that China is not giong to demand to be paid as long as we ship our jobs to them and we buy their products. The whole fair trade thing is just a ploy. There is an arrangement. This just proves the absurdity of the situation.

You would be surprised.... In some cases, we're at a point which we no longer have the manufacturing capacity to do it, and it takes up time to build that...

Case in point...That's why there's all this hype around Molycorp and rare earth metals...Overseas use to be a big supplier, and we stopped doing it ourselves.

Submitted by no_such_reality on February 1, 2011 - 8:21pm.

flu wrote:
no_such_reality wrote:
flu wrote:
I don't think you folks sense the irony here....

For all the bashing about all the crap that comes out of overseas about food safety and several have touted about food product safety...Then we have this sort of crap that goes on....

I'll LOLing because I'm deciding what's the better way me and my family will die... Eating fish from the gulf, eating fish from overseas bathed in mercury bath, or eating GM food made by monsanto...

Makes you kinda wonder, are food products from china really that much worse off than stuff from here? Are we *really* that much better off...It's definitely making me think twice....

After all, we know it's not only the genetic modifications that's screwy in itself (they are)...It's that their doing it so they can spray tons and tons of pesticides on the goods so that they can kill bugs and weeds without killing the produce.... But don't worry, I'm sure all those pesticides are perfectly safe for human consumption...

Recent shopping trip for 'healthy' baby food:

Gerber Organic Brown Rice Infant cereal.

Ingredients - 100% organic whole grain rice.

Made in China.

Stop, back up. Double check. USDA Organic - check, infant cereal- check, whole grain rice - check. Made in China.

... I started to have a facial tic at this point.

It's organic and good for the environment and my baby, but I'm grinding it up in China (A bellweather in consumer safety) and then putting it in a box, in another box, in a steel container and loading it on boat that is basically burning asphalt to ship it 10000 kilometers across the planet.

Lol... That's the irony, isn't it???? Sure, the food is organic... What do you think they use for fertilizer...Obviously, some for some of these farms, real fertilizer is too expensive... Next best thing might be some "natural fertilizer", if you know what I mean. I kid, I kid.... Sort of..

And when in doubt, next time you check, you might as well look to see where your toothpaste is made these days. If you're spending less than $2/tube, I'm pretty confident it's not made here...

Anyway, don't buy baby food. Make your own...Get yourself one of these...

http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Bullet-MBR-1...

That is, if you don't mind that they are made overseas too, and you feel ok whether the plastic cup is ok....

We were discussing the making the baby food, that was the straw... we looked at the MB, but went with a all in one Beaba Baby Food Maker The wife likes the steam and blend in one container. I'm happy with anything that is less stuff to clean.

As for organic, well, ... technically, it's not bull____, it's steer____ that is used.

And as for what is fertilizing the organic in places like China... exactly my thoughts. Ever have ddong deji in Korea?

Submitted by Aecetia on February 1, 2011 - 8:38pm.

Flu is correct about toothpaste, it is difficult to find it made in the USA.

Colgate Total: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening with Oxygen Bubbles Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate Fluoride Toothpaste, Kids line: Made in Canada
Colgate Max Fresh: Made in Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Maximum Strength Sensitive: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Sparkling White Fluoride Toothpaste: Mexico
Colgate Cavity Protection Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate 2 in 1 Toothpaste & Mouthwash: Made in the UK
The Colgate info. was from a yahoo search, but here is a link for checking for products made here.

http://www.americansworking.com/

Submitted by jpinpb on February 1, 2011 - 9:55pm.

I'm was using Peelu, made in USA, I believe. Also Ecodent, I think Is made in the USA.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on February 1, 2011 - 10:44pm.

human poo for fertlizier at my house. fresh tomatoes int he springtime.

Submitted by UCGal on February 2, 2011 - 12:06pm.

Aecetia wrote:
Flu is correct about toothpaste, it is difficult to find it made in the USA.

Colgate Total: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening with Oxygen Bubbles Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate Fluoride Toothpaste, Kids line: Made in Canada
Colgate Max Fresh: Made in Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Maximum Strength Sensitive: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Sparkling White Fluoride Toothpaste: Mexico
Colgate Cavity Protection Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate 2 in 1 Toothpaste & Mouthwash: Made in the UK
The Colgate info. was from a yahoo search, but here is a link for checking for products made here.

http://www.americansworking.com/

Toms of Maine is made in the USA. Unless Maine was annexed into Canada. Now that Colgate owns them, though... who knows how long before it gets produced elsewhere.

Submitted by briansd1 on February 2, 2011 - 12:10pm.

What does made in USA have anything to do with quality?

Quality is quality no matter where it's made.

Submitted by ILoveRegulation on February 3, 2011 - 7:21am.

Monsanto and their ilk have completely captured the legislative and executive branches. I read somewhere that the frankenfood industry has spent $500 million on lobbying since the year 2000.

The only way we will be able to beat back the purveyors of frankenfoods is to fight them in the courts. You can donate to the legal battle through this link:

https://secure3.convio.net/cfs/site/Dona...

To those of you who think frankenfoods are going to feed the world, give me a break. Monsanto and other frankenfood purveyors don't give a rat's about feeding starving people in poor countries because those people don't have any money. Monsanto only cares about collecting a tax from every farmer and everyone who can already afford to eat.

There is also no safety testing of frankenfoods and no labeling which would enable consumers to choose. Monsanto creates frankenfoods by using the e.coli virus to penetrate the cell walls which allows introduction of the frankengeneticmaterial. Does that sound safe or sound like something you want to eat?

You can either LOL! like the lamo original poster who started this thread while corporate America continues their raping spree or you can donate to the fight that will be taking place in the one branch of government that hasn't been completely bought off by special interests.

Submitted by NotCranky on February 3, 2011 - 8:04am.

Is the e.coli in the seeds that are planted? Is it in the field where these seeds are planted because of Monsanto, or does it stay in the lab and get killed and disposed of with other waste products?

Isn't the e.coli bacteria used in many other laboratory procedures? Isn't is likely alive in compost piles on organic farms fairly often?

In general I don't laugh about Monsanto. Is it really proper to identify the use of e.coli in a laboratory as something sinister?

Submitted by Coronita on February 3, 2011 - 8:23am.

Rustico wrote:
Is the e.coli in the seeds that are planted? Is it in the field where these seeds are planted because of Monsanto, or does it stay in the lab and get killed and disposed of with other waste products?

Isn't the e.coli bacteria used in many other laboratory procedures? Isn't is likely alive in compost piles on organic farms fairly often?

In general I don't laugh about Monsanto. Is it really proper to identify the use of e.coli in a laboratory as something sinister?

Uh, e.coli is a bacteria..usually brought on by contamination and obviously iloveregulation, like always, doesn't know what the fvck he's talking about.

In fact, the recent e.coli outbreak happened in 2006 to "organic" spinach was due to fecal matter contaminant, I believe.

http://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2006/september/

Submitted by Coronita on February 3, 2011 - 8:25am.

ILoveRegulation wrote:
Monsanto and their ilk have completely captured the legislative and executive branches. I read somewhere that the frankenfood industry has spent $500 million on lobbying since the year 2000.

The only way we will be able to beat back the purveyors of frankenfoods is to fight them in the courts. You can donate to the legal battle through this link:

https://secure3.convio.net/cfs/site/Dona...

To those of you who think frankenfoods are going to feed the world, give me a break. Monsanto and other frankenfood purveyors don't give a rat's about feeding starving people in poor countries because those people don't have any money. Monsanto only cares about collecting a tax from every farmer and everyone who can already afford to eat.

There is also no safety testing of frankenfoods and no labeling which would enable consumers to choose. Monsanto creates frankenfoods by using the e.coli virus to penetrate the cell walls which allows introduction of the frankengeneticmaterial. Does that sound safe or sound like something you want to eat?

You can either LOL! like the lamo original poster who started this thread while corporate America continues their raping spree or you can donate to the fight that will be taking place in the one branch of government that hasn't been completely bought off by special interests.

e.coli is a bacteria, you idiot. Obviously, you flunked your biology class. No worries, I hear the government is hiring with your qualifications.

Submitted by ILoveRegulation on February 3, 2011 - 8:29am.

Rustico wrote:

In general I don't laugh about Monsanto. Is it really proper to identify the use of e.coli in a laboratory as something sinister?

If you want to eat frankenfood that has been modified using e.coli go right ahead. I want labeling and for the organic food that I eat to be free of genetically-modified material.

I'm happy to allow people like you to be the human guinea pig when it comes to eating frankenfoods that hasn't gone through any human safety testing whatsoever.

The questions I would have for you is: Why take the risk? What great benefits have frankenfoods gotten us? And I'm not talking about theoretical BS benefits that might accrue some time in the future. Can you even name one benefit of frankenfoods?

Submitted by ILoveRegulation on February 3, 2011 - 8:34am.

flu wrote:

e.coli is a bacteria, you idiot. Obviously, you flunked your biology class. No worries, I hear the government is hiring with your qualifications.

Whatever. Whether it's a bacteria or a virus isn't central to my argument. The fact is that the frankenfood industry is using pathogens to modify food that people eat.

You and Rustico are cool with that. Awesome. Eat all the frankenfood you want.

Submitted by ILoveRegulation on February 3, 2011 - 8:57am.

Contrary to the claims of the frankenfood industry, genetically-modified plants tend to do more harm than good.

“We were cheated by the seed companies. We did not get the yield promised by them, not even half of it. And the expenditure involved was so high that we incurred huge debts. We have heard that the government is now planning commercial cultivation of Bt brinjal. But we do not want Bt seeds of any crop anymore,” said farmer Sahebrao Yawiliker.

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/farmersSuicidesB...

Submitted by Coronita on February 3, 2011 - 9:31am.

ILoveRegulation wrote:
flu wrote:

e.coli is a bacteria, you idiot. Obviously, you flunked your biology class. No worries, I hear the government is hiring with your qualifications.

Whatever. Whether it's a bacteria or a virus isn't central to my argument. The fact is that the frankenfood industry is using pathogens to modify food that people eat.

You and Rustico are cool with that. Awesome. Eat all the frankenfood you want.

...I just find it ironic that you come out swinging and you don't even have your facts straight... I'm hesistant to even ask if you know the difference between a virus and bacteria. Still waiting for those green job numbers in CA.....

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.