OT: I am slowly switching to nylon clothing

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Submitted by gzz on July 9, 2021 - 3:41pm

Bet you all thought this would be a scaredy post.

These are the best pants and shorts I've ever had:

https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/c...

The key point is they are made of nylon, which is far better than cotton or polyester. For one thing, it doesn't absorb and keep body oils:

https://lightheartgear.com/blogs/news/po...

It also dries really fast. I now have a critical mass of nylon clothing that I wash and dry them separately, and it takes about 13 minutes to dry in my normal gas dryer, when cotton clothes take 40 mins.

Stain resistance is on par with polyester and better than cotton.

Submitted by Rich Toscano on July 9, 2021 - 5:02pm.

gzz wrote:
Bet you all thought this would be a scaredy post.

Hahaha... I did indeed :-D

Submitted by XBoxBoy on July 9, 2021 - 6:00pm.

While it might not be relevant for many of you, never ever where nylon when doing hot work such as welding. Never ever!

Submitted by Coronita on July 9, 2021 - 6:25pm.

XBoxBoy wrote:
While it might not be relevant for many of you, never ever where nylon when doing hot work such as welding. Never ever!

Dumb question? Why?

Edit. Never mind..I googled it...Ah that's why when I dropped a butane torch on a nylon pants by accident it burned the way it burned.....Doh....

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 10, 2021 - 4:21am.

Rich Toscano wrote:
gzz wrote:
Bet you all thought this would be a scaredy post.

Hahaha... I did indeed :-D

Stylistically in terms of writing, maybe. But all nylon? I am thinking of switching entirely to Ukrainian linen.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/779502666/h...

Submitted by zk on July 10, 2021 - 8:33am.

gzz wrote:
Bet you all thought this would be a scaredy post.

Ha! My eyebrows actually shot up when I saw gzz instead of scaredy. Then of course I laughed when I read the line quoted above.

Seems just a tad pricey, so between being cheap and being old (and maybe thus resistant to change), I'm not sure I can get on board. I'd be interested to hear how you like them as time goes by, though.

Submitted by Rich Toscano on July 10, 2021 - 9:55am.

scaredyclassic wrote:
Rich Toscano wrote:
gzz wrote:
Bet you all thought this would be a scaredy post.

Hahaha... I did indeed :-D

Stylistically in terms of writing, maybe. But all nylon?

Also a good point

Submitted by gzz on July 10, 2021 - 3:16pm.

ZK: I have yet to pay full price for Prana Stretch Zion items. Even used they aren't cheap, but $30-50 for Amazon returns and ~$25-30 for used on ebay isn't too bad. The fact that they attract tons of bidders on ebay when other more famous "designer" items don't tells you something.

I will probably in the end bite the bullet and pay full retail for the Prana items when I stop losing weight.

If you want to try out the NylonHikingShortsLifeStyle without spending much ($17), I suggest these:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wrangler-Men-...

I got a couple pairs in the mail today actually, and am wearing one now. Not as good as the $80 ones, but still nylon and very cool. They are about as thin as running shorts, but not low cut and tight, so you can wear them in public. I also like they have cargo pockets, but you barely notice them so you don't have the sloppy cargo shorts look.

WalMart items are often way oversized, but these fit true to size.

Scaredy: In my journey on the way to nylon, I also tried silk and linen. The silk shorts, by Tommy Bahama, isn't soft and thin like a silk shirt, and is fairly nice. Linen shorts are also kind of nice, they have a beachy Cuban feel to them. However, both of them wrinkle and stain more than nylon. Finally I tried hemp shorts, which are very close to linen.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 10, 2021 - 3:45pm.

gzz wrote:
ZK: I have yet to pay full price for Prana Stretch Zion items. Even used they aren't cheap, but $30-50 for Amazon returns and ~$25-30 for used on ebay isn't too bad. The fact that they attract tons of bidders on ebay when other more famous "designer" items don't tells you something.

I will probably in the end bite the bullet and pay full retail for the Prana items when I stop losing weight.

If you want to try out the NylonHikingShortsLifeStyle without spending much ($17), I suggest these:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wrangler-Men-...

I got a couple pairs in the mail today actually, and am wearing one now. Not as good as the $80 ones, but still nylon and very cool. They are about as thin as running shorts, but not low cut and tight, so you can wear them in public. I also like they have cargo pockets, but you barely notice them so you don't have the sloppy cargo shorts look.

WalMart items are often way oversized, but these fit true to size.

Scaredy: In my journey on the way to nylon, I also tried silk and linen. The silk shorts, by Tommy Bahama, isn't soft and thin like a silk shirt, and is fairly nice. Linen shorts are also kind of nice, they have a beachy Cuban feel to them. However, both of them wrinkle and stain more than nylon. Finally I tried hemp shorts, which are very close to linen.

The wrinkling is a feature.

Submitted by XBoxBoy on July 10, 2021 - 4:57pm.

zk wrote:

Seems just a tad pricey, so between being cheap and being old (and maybe thus resistant to change), I'm not sure I can get on board.

Well, if you're cheap than try these:

https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Essentials...

100% cotton

Submitted by gzz on July 12, 2021 - 5:03pm.

Xbox those are overpriced for basic cotton shorts IMO.

However, I see they have teal. I have some early 1990s neon teal Guess? jorts and I always get compliments when I wear them.

Submitted by gzz on May 1, 2022 - 1:21pm.

Update: I am 80% nylon items now for underwear, shorts, and pants.

Nylon doesn’t work well for socks or shirts. Socks become too sweaty and don’t provide enough soft barrier between foot and shoe. Shirts are actually quite comfortable, but they have a nipple outlining effect. So they are reserved for bike rides and yard work, and I won’t buy more. The shirts aren’t even tight or thin, size L is kind of baggy but still has the effect.

I now have a third laundry basket for nylon clothing. It washes perfectly in cold water on quick cycle and dries in 15 minutes on the “very low - delicates” setting. Meanwhile cotton clothing needs 40 minutes on high to dry.

I hide this basket from my maid who normally does the laundry. I enjoy doing just this quick task every 10 days or so, and don’t feel like having a long conversation in Spanish with her about doing the quick cycle and low dry where I illustrate things on our wonderful but overly complicated Samsung washer and dryer. She seems stressed out lately and I don’t want to add to it.

Submitted by gzz on May 1, 2022 - 1:25pm.

Best nylon clothing source:

https://www.32degrees.com/

My lady loves their stuff too. We’ve done like 4 orders in the past year. I understand they may be sold in Costco but I don’t go there.

Do a general search for nylon to see their selection. Their other items have been good too, like cotton t shirts and ladies’ pajamas.

Submitted by sdrealtor on May 1, 2022 - 4:11pm.

I love that you buy nylon clothes to save money and have a maid

Submitted by spdrun on May 1, 2022 - 4:26pm.

Microplastics.

Also, why not just dry on a clothes line in warm/dry weather? CA has a law prohibiting HOAs from banning outdoor drying lines.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 1, 2022 - 6:51pm.

I've been wearing the same pair of pants since December. Every day except for about 5 days. Orslow slim fit fatigues from Japan. $200. Cost per wear currently around $1.50. I love these pants. Wash them only when they stink. 10 days?

Submitted by phaster on May 2, 2022 - 11:12am.

scaredyclassic wrote:
I've been wearing the same pair of pants since December. Every day except for about 5 days. Orslow slim fit fatigues from Japan. $200. Cost per wear currently around $1.50. I love these pants. Wash them only when they stink. 10 days?

a few things about nylon clothing I don't like, first off it does not 'breath" like cotton AND second off durning hot dry days it builds up static charge

ever consider 'hemp" clothing???

personally like these work pants

www.patagonia.com/product/mens-all-seaso...

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 2, 2022 - 11:27am.

phaster wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
I've been wearing the same pair of pants since December. Every day except for about 5 days. Orslow slim fit fatigues from Japan. $200. Cost per wear currently around $1.50. I love these pants. Wash them only when they stink. 10 days?

a few things about nylon clothing I don't like, first off it does not 'breath" like cotton AND second off durning hot dry days it builds up static charge

ever consider 'hemp" clothing???

personally like these work pants

www.patagonia.com/product/mens-all-seasons-hemp-canvas-double-knee-work-pants-regular/55785.html?dwvar_55785_color=FTGN&cgid=collection-hemp

I prefer extremely expensive Japanese reproductions of vintage American work wear. The more expensive and absurd, the better.

Submitted by phaster on May 2, 2022 - 11:41am.

scaredyclassic wrote:
phaster wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
I've been wearing the same pair of pants since December. Every day except for about 5 days. Orslow slim fit fatigues from Japan. $200. Cost per wear currently around $1.50. I love these pants. Wash them only when they stink. 10 days?

a few things about nylon clothing I don't like, first off it does not 'breath" like cotton AND second off durning hot dry days it builds up static charge

ever consider 'hemp" clothing???

personally like these work pants

www.patagonia.com/product/mens-all-seasons-hemp-canvas-double-knee-work-pants-regular/55785.html?dwvar_55785_color=FTGN&cgid=collection-hemp

I prefer extremely expensive Japanese reproductions of vintage American work wear. The more expensive and absurd, the better.

American's buying expensive Japanese reproductions of vintage 'US ARMY' work wear,... how ironic,... would even be more hilarious if it was widely embraced by the the 'MAGA' crowd

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 2, 2022 - 12:15pm.

phaster wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
phaster wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
I've been wearing the same pair of pants since December. Every day except for about 5 days. Orslow slim fit fatigues from Japan. $200. Cost per wear currently around $1.50. I love these pants. Wash them only when they stink. 10 days?

a few things about nylon clothing I don't like, first off it does not 'breath" like cotton AND second off durning hot dry days it builds up static charge

ever consider 'hemp" clothing???

personally like these work pants

www.patagonia.com/product/mens-all-seasons-hemp-canvas-double-knee-work-pants-regular/55785.html?dwvar_55785_color=FTGN&cgid=collection-hemp

I prefer extremely expensive Japanese reproductions of vintage American work wear. The more expensive and absurd, the better.

American's buying expensive Japanese reproductions of vintage 'US ARMY' work wear,... how ironic,... would even be more hilarious if it was widely embraced by the the 'MAGA' crowd

Here ya go ..$240 a pair now! And the slim fit version is now sold out on this website!

https://shopcanoeclub.com/products/us-ar...

They're actually worth it, I think. Sure, I'm cheap, but I'll pay for perfect and highly ironic pants. Cost per wear these are cheaper than a lot of cheap clothes I've bought ...

Patagonia pants are made in sri Lanka, sorry, only Japanese tailoring for vintage work wear for me.if I were inclined to go hemp I'd only buy from www.jungmaven.com. Hippie vibe, made in USA, stupid expensive

Have u seen OLD ENOUGH on Netflix? Japanese kids running errands. Amazing show.

Submitted by phaster on May 2, 2022 - 4:52pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
phaster wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
phaster wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
I've been wearing the same pair of pants since December. Every day except for about 5 days. Orslow slim fit fatigues from Japan. $200. Cost per wear currently around $1.50. I love these pants. Wash them only when they stink. 10 days?

a few things about nylon clothing I don't like, first off it does not 'breath" like cotton AND second off durning hot dry days it builds up static charge

ever consider 'hemp" clothing???

personally like these work pants

www.patagonia.com/product/mens-all-seasons-hemp-canvas-double-knee-work-pants-regular/55785.html?dwvar_55785_color=FTGN&cgid=collection-hemp

I prefer extremely expensive Japanese reproductions of vintage American work wear. The more expensive and absurd, the better.

American's buying expensive Japanese reproductions of vintage 'US ARMY' work wear,... how ironic,... would even be more hilarious if it was widely embraced by the the 'MAGA' crowd

Here ya go ..$240 a pair now! And the slim fit version is now sold out on this website!

https://shopcanoeclub.com/products/us-ar...

They're actually worth it, I think. Sure, I'm cheap, but I'll pay for perfect and highly ironic pants. Cost per wear these are cheaper than a lot of cheap clothes I've bought ...

Patagonia pants are made in sri Lanka, sorry, only Japanese tailoring for vintage work wear for me.if I were inclined to go hemp I'd only buy from www.jungmaven.com. Hippie vibe, made in USA, stupid expensive

Have u seen OLD ENOUGH on Netflix? Japanese kids running errands. Amazing show.

$240 bucks for slim fit work pants,... sigh can't quite make that work out in my mind (even though I could easily afford it)

I'm happy w/ Patagonia fair trade hemp clothing,... decades ago found my self in Uzbekistan and saw first hand the wacked idea of a USSR command economy WRT growing cotton and uses forced labor to pick it

long story short short the Soviets diverted two rivers in Central Asia in order to irrigate cotton fields (and in the process created an environmental disaster of biblical proportions,... essentially destroying a large inland sea)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ksqhdvA9DM

basically looking at the numbers, cotton takes lots more inputs than hemp (to grow) so this is why I'm a big fan of hemp clothing and bed sheets,... granted hemp isn't as soft or inexpensive as cotton BUT at the end of the day I see environmental 'efficiency' advantages

another thing WRT to nylon clothing, that I'm uncomfortable w/ is the issue of 'microfibers'

http://www.plasticsoupfoundation.org/en/...

http://www.inputmag.com/style/microfiber...

WRT Patagonia using labor as you mentioned from sri Lanka, I actually see that as a positive thing because it brings in 'fair trade' dollars into their economy which is better than the 'fast fashion' alternative

huh,... did nor know about 'old enough' just checked it out and will have to power though that Netflix documentary series

FYI by power though I mean watch using chrome browser w/ the 'speedup' plugin

http://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail...

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 2, 2022 - 6:18pm.

phaster wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
phaster wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
phaster wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
I've been wearing the same pair of pants since December. Every day except for about 5 days. Orslow slim fit fatigues from Japan. $200. Cost per wear currently around $1.50. I love these pants. Wash them only when they stink. 10 days?

a few things about nylon clothing I don't like, first off it does not 'breath" like cotton AND second off durning hot dry days it builds up static charge

ever consider 'hemp" clothing???

personally like these work pants

www.patagonia.com/product/mens-all-seasons-hemp-canvas-double-knee-work-pants-regular/55785.html?dwvar_55785_color=FTGN&cgid=collection-hemp

I prefer extremely expensive Japanese reproductions of vintage American work wear. The more expensive and absurd, the better.

American's buying expensive Japanese reproductions of vintage 'US ARMY' work wear,... how ironic,... would even be more hilarious if it was widely embraced by the the 'MAGA' crowd

Here ya go ..$240 a pair now! And the slim fit version is now sold out on this website!

https://shopcanoeclub.com/products/us-ar...

They're actually worth it, I think. Sure, I'm cheap, but I'll pay for perfect and highly ironic pants. Cost per wear these are cheaper than a lot of cheap clothes I've bought ...

Patagonia pants are made in sri Lanka, sorry, only Japanese tailoring for vintage work wear for me.if I were inclined to go hemp I'd only buy from www.jungmaven.com. Hippie vibe, made in USA, stupid expensive

Have u seen OLD ENOUGH on Netflix? Japanese kids running errands. Amazing show.

$240 bucks for slim fit work pants,... sigh can't quite make that work out in my mind (even though I could easily afford it)

I'm happy w/ Patagonia fair trade hemp clothing,... decades ago found my self in Uzbekistan and saw first hand the wacked idea of a USSR command economy WRT growing cotton and uses forced labor to pick it

long story short short the Soviets diverted two rivers in Central Asia in order to irrigate cotton fields (and in the process created an environmental disaster of biblical proportions,... essentially destroying a large inland sea)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ksqhdvA9DM

basically looking at the numbers, cotton takes lots more inputs than hemp (to grow) so this is why I'm a big fan of hemp clothing and bed sheets,... granted hemp isn't as soft or inexpensive as cotton BUT at the end of the day I see environmental 'efficiency' advantages

another thing WRT to nylon clothing, that I'm uncomfortable w/ is the issue of 'microfibers'

http://www.plasticsoupfoundation.org/en/...

http://www.inputmag.com/style/microfiber...

WRT Patagonia using labor as you mentioned from sri Lanka, I actually see that as a positive thing because it brings in 'fair trade' dollars into their economy which is better than the 'fast fashion' alternative

huh,... did nor know about 'old enough' just checked it out and will have to power though that Netflix documentary series

FYI by power though I mean watch using chrome browser w/ the 'speedup' plugin

http://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/speedup-netflix-prime-vid/pldkddbkbcedophgedaeofceedjcaehl

Each OLD ENOUGH episode is only 15 mins or so. You'll know if you love it right away. It's called MY FIRST ERRAND in Japan.

I just today ordered another pair for 160 with shipping direct from Japan. I agree , 240 sounds high. But these are superior pants. My wife is a little irritated that I refuse to change my pants

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 2, 2022 - 6:43pm.

Watching the aral sea video now. Fascinating!!!

I am reading SECONDHAND TIME, novel prize winning book consisting of interviews w people describing life in Russia from 1991 on, fall of communism. Learnt of book here: https://thecurmudgeonsattic.wordpress.co...

Obscure blog I follow...

Got Russia on the brain....I guess my main objection to Patagonia products is they are completely unironic. I was in boulder recently and every single human was wearing Patagonia. Made me hate Patagonia.

I love the idea of wearing clothing until it disintegrates, with full love for each garment whatever that garment is for anyone

Submitted by phaster on May 6, 2022 - 2:04pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
Watching the aral sea video now. Fascinating!!!

I am reading SECONDHAND TIME, novel prize winning book consisting of interviews w people describing life in Russia from 1991 on, fall of communism. Learnt of book here: https://thecurmudgeonsattic.wordpress.co...

Obscure blog I follow...

Got Russia on the brain....I guess my main objection to Patagonia products is they are completely unironic. I was in boulder recently and every single human was wearing Patagonia. Made me hate Patagonia.

I love the idea of wearing clothing until it disintegrates, with full love for each garment whatever that garment is for anyone

yeah I get it,... when everyone is doing the same thing,... it is 'might' be useful to get look at things from another POV (actually this is my approach to investing)

sigh,... WRT Patagonia clothing,... pretty much the only stuff I've purchased from them is mostly articles of hemp clothing,... basically buy it because it's a known quantity

since this thread is about nylon clothing,... basically for the longest time wore pretty much only Levi 501 jeans BUT when I was really into backpacking/back country skiing especially in the sierras during winter,... wet cotton sucks!

so when backpacking/back country skiing really appreciate the ruggedness of nylon hiking gear BUT what I don't like is wearing nylon durning summer (it just does not breath),... and when condition are arid and hot,... hated also getting shocked (due to static buildup when nylon rubs together)

anyway if you are into Russia, there is a book you might find interesting

http://www.amazon.com/Journey-Saint-Pete...

as an undergrad at UCSD I doubled majored Physics and PoliSci AND basically took concentrated course work in Russian/Soviet politics,... and that is where I first heard of 'Radishchev'

Submitted by sdduuuude on May 10, 2022 - 2:07pm.

During the winter, I go all cotton. Flannel pants or cotton sweats around the house, jeans or cotton cargo pants for out and about, cotton khakis for biz casual.

I love cotton but for shorts they can be bulky and not stretchy/flexible.

So, in the warmer months, I go with nylon running shorts and cotton t-shirts for daily wear when not in an office - which is 100% of the time now. Maybe cotton or flannel shorts at home at night.

Too much nylon in socks smell bad quickly. Too much cotton in socks makes them not flexible. Somewhere in there is the right mix. I know it when I see it.

And yes, I'd have bet the farm this was a scaredy post.

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