ot. electric bicycles.

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Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 24, 2015 - 7:00am

My kid bought one a while back which he ditched when he got his d/l. I've been commuting on it and this thing is a blast. If you're bored and looking for something to make u smile ebikes have come a long way. The batteries and motors assist the pedalin g and cruising at 20 mph is very very low,effort. Really fun thing for summertime.

Bought our bike at the ebikes dealer in San marcos.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on June 24, 2015 - 4:41pm.

Isn't it dangerous to bike with all the SUVs zooming by on the wide Temecula streets?

Your wife actually allows you to ride?

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 24, 2015 - 6:52pm.

I'm very bikey.

Submitted by svelte on June 26, 2015 - 6:08am.

I've actually been considering this. My wife and I take walks now, but used to bike in norcal in a city that was very flat. The hills around here have kept us from biking....I figure if I could get a motorized bike we could pedal on the flat stretches and kick in the motor for uphill...I think that would be fun!

When we first moved to SM I bought an old 1960s green Schwinn at a garage sale with the intent of getting wifey and I back into biking. The hills killed that idea. We had a garage sale one day and at the back of the garage was that old green Schwinn. A guy in the driveway spotted it and offered me an enormous sum for it. Off it went in the back of his truck. Odd the way life works out sometimes.

Submitted by fun4vnay2 on June 26, 2015 - 1:49pm.

My friends consider me crazy as my car is worth $2K and my new bike was $4K. I love riding on hills...

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 26, 2015 - 5:30pm.

rockingtime wrote:
My friends consider me crazy as my car is worth $2K and my new bike was $4K. I love riding on hills...

Absolutely reasonable

Submitted by scaredyclassic on June 26, 2015 - 6:03pm.

svelte wrote:
I've actually been considering this. My wife and I take walks now, but used to bike in norcal in a city that was very flat. The hills around here have kept us from biking....I figure if I could get a motorized bike we could pedal on the flat stretches and kick in the motor for uphill...I think that would be fun!

When we first moved to SM I bought an old 1960s green Schwinn at a garage sale with the intent of getting wifey and I back into biking. The hills killed that idea. We had a garage sale one day and at the back of the garage was that old green Schwinn. A guy in the driveway spotted it and offered me an enormous sum for it. Off it went in the back of his truck. Odd the way life works out sometimes.

Try a rental. You will be amused. It's like a magic carpet

Submitted by FlyerInHi on July 5, 2015 - 4:06pm.

I watched the Tour de France from Utrecht.
It's so nice that everyone in Holland rides bicycles.

With batteries improvements, electric bicycles just make sense.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on July 3, 2019 - 9:49pm.

For you scaredy. This is what it’s like where biking is normal. Very lovely.
https://youtu.be/rz20rAJ7oIg
https://youtu.be/vyrTx9SXkVI

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 4, 2019 - 8:31am.

no helmets, yet less accidents than usa.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 4, 2019 - 8:34am.

i have been carfree for a couple months now .... temeculas actually has some nice side routes, paths, dirt roads here and there.

google maps suggestions for bikes do not work. there s fencing in some spots.

ebiking could change retirement budget. frees up about 700/month.

Submitted by flu on July 4, 2019 - 10:01am.

You inspired me to be more green. After I finish with helping with a bunch of housing tasks, I figured out the next project I want to do to my old Miata that rarely gets driveN now....

Electric Miata.
https://youtu.be/lQkdMw4TVjY

The conversions is only $20k

9.25 sec 1/4mile runs is just insane...

autocross vehicle might be good too

https://youtu.be/xpIt84wYW-8

I don't think I can add more power using ICB engines except a V8 which would cost more.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 4, 2019 - 12:53pm.

was riding this a.m. w the wife and we were thinking set up an ebike wine country tour biz. theres competirion but we could do something more personalized and familyish. accomodate kids...

Submitted by gzz on July 5, 2019 - 3:52pm.

I didn’t like the Uber Jump electric bike even though i like the e scooters.

It is heavy to lift up curbs and doesn’t feel as natural as a regular bike.

Submitted by Hobie on July 5, 2019 - 7:37pm.

Flu: Maybe I'm just old. Drag races *need* to be loud. Quiet electric, albeit fast, just doesn't do it for me. Part of the full tactile experience.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 7, 2019 - 4:18pm.

gzz wrote:
I didn’t like the Uber Jump electric bike even though i like the e scooters.

It is heavy to lift up curbs and doesn’t feel as natural as a regular bike.

the Bosch mid drive system feels 100 % natural.

Submitted by barnaby33 on July 9, 2019 - 12:52pm.

I just took delivery of an Onyx and other than a few minor complaints it's awesome. It makes very little pretense of being a bike though. It says 75 mile range, but it also will do 50+.

Submitted by The-Shoveler on July 9, 2019 - 3:22pm.

yea I think you are going to need a class CM1 license and register with the DMV.

Could be wrong, but that seems more a motor driven cycle than bicycle.

Submitted by barnaby33 on July 9, 2019 - 6:32pm.

It's easier to ask forgiveness than get permission!

Submitted by FlyerInHi on July 10, 2019 - 5:41pm.

OMG. These cities are so bike friendly. I am in love.

https://youtu.be/fv38J7SKH_g

https://youtu.be/Boi0XEm9-4E

Submitted by spdrun on July 12, 2019 - 9:32am.

Hobie: quiet, fast, cars are awesome -- they don't attract neighbors' or cops' ire as much.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on July 17, 2019 - 8:45pm.

You have to see the bike lanes with advance LED signals, Very cool and innovative.

https://youtu.be/HBhPrwhVbzQ

Submitted by flu on July 18, 2019 - 6:56am.

.....So...I broke down finally and caved. I ordered a Model 3 today for my mom. Hopefully it gets here before her birthday. The electric Miata will have to wait....

However, I want to cancel and reorder the car because the order number has three 4's in a row.. And superstition has it that is bad luck.. But it's really hard to cancel and reorder and then Tesla will hold onto the $2500 for a few weeks and not let you apply it to the new order right away, which is annoying. Tesla needs to work on their website. I guess cost cutting found it's way to the IT group... The model 3 was just discounted by $3000 BTW....

For me, maybe an ebikein the short term...I think there are a few ebike conversion kits on Amazon I wanted to try out. I got an old road bike that I rarely use... Reduce recycle reuse...lol...

https://www.amazon.com/BAFANG-BBSHD1000W...

Submitted by zk on July 18, 2019 - 8:28am.

flu wrote:

The conversions is only $20k

9.25 sec 1/4mile runs is just insane...

Damn, that Miata leaps off the line like a scalded cat.

I'm skeptical that you can get a 9.25 second car for only an old Miata and 20k. Unless maybe the battery you're getting only lasts a couple years or has some other shortcoming. If you can, it seems like quite a steal to me.

Hobie wrote:
Flu: Maybe I'm just old. Drag races *need* to be loud. Quiet electric, albeit fast, just doesn't do it for me. Part of the full tactile experience.

Yeah, that's the other issue. I used to mock rice racers back when their cars were 14-and 15-second cars getting smoked by 11-second V8 muscle. Partly because of the lame 4-banger sound but mostly because they were slower. But now you've got these electric cars, many of which can smoke the fastest muscle cars. The damn Tesla Roadster does 0-60 in 1.9. Yikes.

Still, the sound does complete the experience. I have a Challenger Scat Pack which can be blown away by your faster electric cars. But I wouldn't trade it. I love the sound too much.

flu wrote:

So...I broke down finally and caved. I ordered a Model 3 today for my mom. Hopefully it gets here before her birthday.

Very generous! A couple of my friends have the 3. I think it's a fantastic car.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on July 18, 2019 - 8:48am.

flu wrote:
.....So...I broke down finally and caved.

Did you replace all your incandescent light bulbs yet?

Submitted by flu on July 18, 2019 - 9:33am.

zk wrote:

I'm skeptical that you can get a 9.25 second car for only an old Miata and 20k. Unless maybe the battery you're getting only lasts a couple years or has some other shortcoming. If you can, it seems like quite a steal to me.

It probably would have been a lot more. I didn't actually dig into it... It would have been cool though.. Drag isn't my thing, but I was thinking it might be a really good autocross car if the weight is reasonable and balanced and low...

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Hobie wrote:
Flu: Maybe I'm just old. Drag races *need* to be loud. Quiet electric, albeit fast, just doesn't do it for me. Part of the full tactile experience.

Yeah, that's the other issue. I used to mock rice racers back when their cars were 14-and 15-second cars getting smoked by 11-second V8 muscle. Partly because of the lame 4-banger sound but mostly because they were slower. But now you've got these electric cars, many of which can smoke the fastest muscle cars. The damn Tesla Roadster does 0-60 in 1.9. Yikes.

Still, the sound does complete the experience. I have a Challenger Scat Pack which can be blown away by your faster electric cars. But I wouldn't trade it. I love the sound too much.

There was this one time, there was a run-off autocross where the top finishers compete against each other using a mystery car. The mystery car was a Chevy Spark EV.. One of the best drivers was kinda funny, because when he started out, he was howling out the window simulating the noise of an ICB engine... Vrrrrrrrrrr (2nd gear change) Vrrrrrrrrr.... We laughed...

The thing that got my attention was the near instant torque of an electric car.. You can't duplicate that with a regular ICB, unless you get into supercar territory.. The negatives would be weight, weight distribution, and range that you can run the car. Autocrosses don't last that long, range really isnt an issue. The weight however......I don't care about the sound, though I guess we could play soundtrack while driving, lol.

What i don't understand is why cars use Lithium Ion and not LiFePO4. The former is not stable, the later is...I use a 2lb LiFePO4 starter battery in my race miata that weighs 2.5 lbs and has about 300CCA and sits behind the passenger seat... It replaced a 30lb AGM battery in the trunk, so the weigh savings was great. Of course the LiFePO4 battery costs 3x of the AGM battery....That's a different story...

Submitted by FlyerInHi on July 18, 2019 - 10:41am.

flu wrote:
I ordered a Model 3 today for my mom. Hopefully it gets here before her birthday.

Be sure to pay the gift tax, unless, of course, you already cooked up a way to hide the gift.

Submitted by flu on July 18, 2019 - 11:32am.

Don't need to do anything about the gift tax. Didn't you get the note from the GOP, BrianSD? The GOP already took care of it....

https://smartasset.com/retirement/lifeti...


Starting in 2018, the lifetime gift tax exemption is $11.18 million. This means that you can give up to $11.18 million in gifts over the course of your lifetime without ever having to pay gift tax on it. For married couples, both spouses get the $11.18 million exemption. This means that if you are married, you and your spouse can give away a total of $22.36 million before paying the gift tax.

So now instead of 11.18 lifetime gift tax exemption, I have $11.175 million in lifetime exclusives left, $23.355 million joint. You don't even need to use an A/B Bypass living trust anymore, unless you are above those limits... Isn't life great or what!

Or the other thing is just to buy the car, register the car in my name, and let someone else use it exclusively. The difference is if that person gets into an accident, it goes on my insurance instead of theirs, and it exposes me to liability.

The third option would be, as I am sure a lot of people do, create an LLC, put the car under the LLC, hire the family member as an employee with a company car...Damn, you small biz owners are so lucky with all the variables and now QBI breaks... lol...

But why bother with #2-3 when the gift tax limit is is so ridiculously large.

Besides, I'm supporting those shovel ready green jobs!

Submitted by FlyerInHi on July 18, 2019 - 11:36am.

Be sure to file a return.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f709.pdf

Submitted by flu on July 18, 2019 - 11:38am.

FlyerInHi wrote:
Be sure to file a return.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f709.pdf

Of course, always have when the gifts exceeded the annual limit. Have you paid your back state sales taxes yet Brian, with interest?

Submitted by FlyerInHi on July 18, 2019 - 11:39am.

You could also have your mom sign a promissory note and gift her annually under the threshold

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