OT: Confession of a Republican

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Submitted by an on March 17, 2016 - 11:37pm

Submitted by Coronita on March 18, 2016 - 5:55am.

As we talked about, I hope we see a brokered convention from the GOP.

I think that would be entertaining, more so than any other reality tv show. The networks would love that. Ratings through the roof..

We'd see the crazies out in full force, lol.

Submitted by spdrun on March 18, 2016 - 6:50am.

If Trump wins the popular, I hope to see him run, fair and square. If the public elects the son of a whore, the US deserves him.

Only glad I'm a dual citizen. Watching the US fuck up while sipping a beer abroad will be fun.

Submitted by no_such_reality on March 18, 2016 - 7:19am.

Trump hasn't even gotten 40% of the popular vote. Go add the numbers. He's "winning" but usually with. Umbels in the high thirties.

More don't want him than want him.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on March 18, 2016 - 7:28am.

I guess it does need to be clarified that we do not live in a democracy.

Perhaps we ought to skip the general election too and just let the electoral college decide

Submitted by Coronita on March 18, 2016 - 8:07am.

spdrun wrote:
If Trump wins the popular, I hope to see him run, fair and square. If the public elects the son of a whore, the US deserves him.

Only glad I'm a dual citizen. Watching the US fuck up while sipping a beer abroad will be fun.

Germany is pretty fvcked up too. You get to pay for greece

But be careful about having another citizenship. Some of the Trump loyalists will be screaming to deport you,and once you leave, they might not let you back in. Lol

Submitted by spdrun on March 18, 2016 - 8:25am.

So? We get to pay for Mississippi :)

Submitted by FlyerInHi on March 18, 2016 - 9:15am.

AN wrote:
Wow, talk about déjà vu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiG0AE8zdTU

That 1964 Republican sounds so gay! Trump supporters would have him drop to his knees.

Now, let us forever dispense with the notion that "both sides are the same" in their degrees of extremism.

Submitted by utcsox on March 18, 2016 - 10:00am.

Agree. Look at Ted Cruz, the more acceptable candidate for the Republicans tap into anti-immigrant sentiment of the electorate with this ad campaign in Arizona.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfBwqGB9...

Submitted by njtosd on March 18, 2016 - 10:55am.

FlyerInHi wrote:
AN wrote:
Wow, talk about déjà vu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiG0AE8zdTU

That 1964 Republican sounds so gay! Trump supporters would have him drop to his knees.

Now, let us forever dispense with the notion that "both sides are the same" in their degrees of extremism.

Brian - I do now believe that you were duped into going to an infomercial lunch.

You realize that this was a commercial put together by LBJ's campaign, right? He was an actor of unknown political affiliation paid by the LBJ campaign to tip the scales in favor of LBJ. There were no rules at that time that required the "This is a paid actor" subscript on commercials. The fact that you think this means anything other than that LBJ wanted to win and didn't like Goldwater is kind of surprising.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on March 18, 2016 - 11:59am.

it was a lunch among friends that turned to sales pitch.

I wasn't born in 1964 yet and I don't know much about Goldwater. But it seems like Republicans have a history of associating with fringe characters. (I will exclude Democrats before the Southern Strategy flipped the South to Republicans).

Submitted by njtosd on March 18, 2016 - 8:24pm.

FlyerInHi wrote:
it was a lunch among friends that turned to sales pitch.

I wasn't born in 1964 yet and I don't know much about Goldwater. But it seems like Republicans have a history of associating with fringe characters. (I will exclude Democrats before the Southern Strategy flipped the South to Republicans).

Regardless - the commercial is no more meaningful than one for Pop-Tarts.

Submitted by svelte on March 20, 2016 - 12:19pm.

FlyerInHi wrote:
it was a lunch among friends that turned to sales pitch.

They looked for a Republican actor to read the script read by said actor in the 1964 LBJ ad. The thoughts expressed in the ad are very likely not those of the actor.

http://www.snopes.com/confessions-of-a-r...

Submitted by an on March 20, 2016 - 1:03pm.

svelte wrote:
FlyerInHi wrote:
it was a lunch among friends that turned to sales pitch.

They looked for a Republican actor to read the script read by said actor in the 1964 LBJ ad. The thoughts expressed in the ad are very likely not those of the actor.

http://www.snopes.com/confessions-of-a-republican/


The reason I posted this thread in the first place was how thing hasn't changed much. If it's Hillary vs Trump, she could use this same script and a modern day Republican actor talking about Trump and it's 100% accurate.

Submitted by svelte on March 20, 2016 - 2:35pm.

AN wrote:
svelte wrote:
FlyerInHi wrote:
it was a lunch among friends that turned to sales pitch.

They looked for a Republican actor to read the script read by said actor in the 1964 LBJ ad. The thoughts expressed in the ad are very likely not those of the actor.

http://www.snopes.com/confessions-of-a-republican/


The reason I posted this thread in the first place was how thing hasn't changed much. If it's Hillary vs Trump, she could use this same script and a modern day Republican actor talking about Trump and it's 100% accurate.

I agree with that. I'm just trying to answer the riddle on what exactly we are watching in the ad.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on March 20, 2016 - 3:40pm.

Talking about flashback, this is what bush senior and Reagan said about immigration back in 1980.

http://youtu.be/w5CEX4O0Ab4

Submitted by bearishgurl on March 20, 2016 - 5:11pm.

FlyerInHi wrote:
Talking about flashback, this is what bush senior and Reagan said about immigration back in 1980.

http://youtu.be/w5CEX4O0Ab4

Interesting video, but GHWB and Reagan couldn't have possibly foreseen back then the blatant "gaming of the system" that has been successfully done in recent decades by those millions of MX Nationals who have managed to (illegally) stay in the US indefinitely using our hospitals, healthcare, SNAP (some eligible), commodity food aid, private charity aid (incl Catholic Charities in SD), SSI and now OASDI and Medicare, and, in some cases, nearly filling up entire public schools!

In addition, the notion of "anchor babies" probably hadn't occurred to either candidate at that time. Nor could either candidate envision the impact illegal immigration would have on the states' (ESP CA) justice systems, jails and prisons (including criminal, civil and domestic court systems) as well as the hundreds of thousands of their children (millions nationwide?) attending public schools. Both candidates were carefully spewing "sound bytes" that "sounded compassionate" at the time, imho, but neither had obviously had time to think through the ramifications of the (good) question that the kid asked them in the debate.

Submitted by poorgradstudent on March 21, 2016 - 9:39am.

no_such_reality wrote:
Trump hasn't even gotten 40% of the popular vote. Go add the numbers. He's "winning" but usually with. Umbels in the high thirties.

More don't want him than want him.

Of course the challenges for the Republican Party is the guy who has been running in second is Ted Cruz. Marco Rubio was sort of the last great hope of the establishment.

If Ted Cruz dropped out (which isn't going to happen anytime soon), odds are Trump would start breaking 50% of the popular vote, so the Establishment is in a real bind.

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