OT: burning with hatred....

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Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 2:28pm

Whatever everyone believes is so, is probably wrong; and people in general seem tot hink you go to the gym to get in shape...and I am coming to think that gyms are very bad for most people for real useable strength.

I hate my gym now with such a strong rage that it actually lights me up and motivates me with fury while I'm there. But I will need to quit soon, and my membership expires ina few weeks anyway.

Why do i hate the gym.

There's this guy who does a few weak reps and then gets right on his cell phone to text. I can't stand having him near me. I can't stand the way he immediately grabs his phone the second he finsihes lifting something that was so easy for him he barely has to try...

There are several women who pay this personal trainer over $50 an hour and basically they just yak with the trainer and do a little workout. lots of yakking. It gets me PISSED. They're probably spending their spouse's money so it doesn't matter...i guess...

there are two guys who think they're serious but they do these weird, wimpy 1/8-1/4 reps wtih big weights and keep patting each other on their backs, which never get any bigger. I don't want to be near them. i can't stand their self-satisfaction and camaraderie.

There are others....

I can't stand the public.

there is a term for weird strength devotees who realize they cannot be out in public and just have to do their weird rituals at home....they are called "cellar dwellers."

I need a real gym with real energy where people are serious...or none at all...

I am often tempted to knock that cell phone out of that texter guy's hand and yell "GET YOUR HEAD INTO IT, MOTHERF**KER!"

...and to just start yakking to myself near the woman who is "working out" with her personal trainer.

indeed, I have to grunt a lot just to concentrate above the whine of her voice complaining about all kinds of first world problems.

And I suppose this rant is also a very first world problem...

I shoudl ignore them, I suppose.

I'm just going to stay in my yard. Lift empty kegs and long iron bars, swing macebells, do pull ups and dips with weights attached to me, toss sandbags around, swing my damn kettlebell, wear a weight vest and jump around the yard, carry heavy weights up and down the hill...learn to do handstands.

I HATE THE GYM.....

i hate seeing people screwing around...they remind me of myself...

GET YOUR HEAD INTO IT...

time is running out...

Submitted by spdrun on September 7, 2013 - 2:31pm.

Why not "make friends" with some of the yakking women? You sound like you could use some "friendship."

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 2:44pm.

No way!!!!!!

Submitted by NotCranky on September 7, 2013 - 3:23pm.

I bet you would be talking shit if you tried a one hour spin class and tried to keep up with some of those women. C'mon anyone can ride a stationary bike.

Submitted by spdrun on September 7, 2013 - 3:40pm.

Spin class ... bleeeeeech. I'd rather do the real thing, meaning an actually bike on roads or trails.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 4:17pm.

i was spinning back in 98 befire it caught on.

it's dumb. but fun.

Submitted by NotCranky on September 7, 2013 - 5:21pm.

spdrun wrote:
Spin class ... bleeeeeech. I'd rather do the real thing, meaning an actually bike on roads or trails.

Sure on the road where you can coast. No coasting on these spin bikes.
I agree that it is boring....and not at all necessary....I have taken the one hour class exactly once. I went 30 miles.

Submitted by NotCranky on September 7, 2013 - 6:34pm.

This rant of your's , scaredy, it sounds way to judgmental !
I bet those bums are eating hotdogs and having ice-cream for desert.

Submitted by CDMA ENG on September 7, 2013 - 6:36pm.

Roid Rage.

CE

Submitted by spdrun on September 7, 2013 - 6:58pm.

Sure on the road where you can coast. No coasting on these spin bikes.
I agree that it is boring....and not at all necessary....I have taken the one hour class exactly once. I went 30 miles.

If you can do 30 mph for an hour, you're either Iron Man or the bike wasn't set to emulate a real bike too well :)

This being said, given the right kind of road, you don't HAVE to coast or rest up if you don't want to.

Submitted by NotCranky on September 7, 2013 - 7:23pm.

spdrun wrote:

Sure on the road where you can coast. No coasting on these spin bikes.
I agree that it is boring....and not at all necessary....I have taken the one hour class exactly once. I went 30 miles.

If you can do 30 mph for an hour, you're either Iron Man or the bike wasn't set to emulate a real bike too well :)

This being said, given the right kind of road, you don't HAVE to coast or rest up if you don't want to.


Yeah, it was pretty generous,,but I can do mid 20's in a hour on the regular stationary training bike (lifecycle) with no class to help (though I usually do a half hour). Then I go lift girly weights and chat it up.

I have ridden on the road but won't do it since my kids came along.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 7:42pm.

Blogstar wrote:
This rant of your's , scaredy, it sounds way to judgmental !
I bet those bums are eating hotdogs and having ice-cream for desert.

yes. true. but they are distracting. I guess it's justa question of what the purpose is.

When people go to church, they shouldn't be on their cellphone or chatting during services.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 7:43pm.

reality on a bike is generally more challenging than a spin class. reality in anything is usually more difficult.

Submitted by spdrun on September 7, 2013 - 7:47pm.

Yeah, it was pretty generous,,but I can do mid 20's in a hour on the regular stationary training bike (lifecycle) with no class to help (though I usually do a half hour). Then I go lift girly weights and chat it up.

I have ridden on the road but won't do it since my kids came along.

Seriously, are you that afraid? I used to go biking with my parents and sister along the coast road that goes through all the beach towns in central NJ. (Pretty similar to the stretch of 101 that goes from O'side to La Jolla, a bit narrower in places.)

Quite a bit of fun for a 8 year old, though I remember being terrified that they'd open the drawbridge while we were riding across it!

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/7Yw3YxY4UH8/maxre...

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 8:18pm.

kind of. but it's just plain natural testosterone. i think i havemore than i am usually capable of handling.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 8:23pm.

i do love bicycles. and it was actually spin classes back in the late 90's that got me into it. once i was aerobically back in shape after a few years of complete inertia,. i had the confidence and wherewithal to get going ona regular bike. it's just not the same as an epic real ride though. for one, you're not going to spend a whole day out and about on a spin bike, unless you're mental. the bicycle is just different.

that said, you can definitely get your heart rate up on a spin bike. i used to wear a heart rate monitor and watch it climb climb climb! scary!

but not quite like a farmer's walk could get it. that's a more intense overall effort....

i'm not sure high heart rate is the whole story.

then there's the problem of just frail bird like bones from excess cycling.

we were meant to be yoked to the earth, to heavy items. man was not meant to fly on wheels.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 8:24pm.

spdrun wrote:

Yeah, it was pretty generous,,but I can do mid 20's in a hour on the regular stationary training bike (lifecycle) with no class to help (though I usually do a half hour). Then I go lift girly weights and chat it up.

I have ridden on the road but won't do it since my kids came along.

Seriously, are you that afraid? I used to go biking with my parents and sister along the coast road that goes through all the beach towns in central NJ. (Pretty similar to the stretch of 101 that goes from O'side to La Jolla, a bit narrower in places.)

Quite a bit of fun for a 8 year old, though I remember being terrified that they'd open the drawbridge while we were riding across it!

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/7Yw3YxY4UH8/maxresdefault.jpg

took kids a few years back from portland oregon up tow ashington on rental bikes. there was kind of a path. fun.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 8:24pm.

coasting not necessarily bad. intervals. high effort. recovery. go rest go harder . rest.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 8:27pm.

wouldn't it be irritating if some knucklehead was chatting on their phone next to you in spin class and pedalling the bare minimum? wouldnt it kind of violate the entire spirit of spin?

OK. we're coming up to n incline and youre coming up hard ona pack of 5 riders...., let's get out of our seats and try to move up alongside this pack of riders.

"SO I sez to nancy, i sez, that dress is gawjus, but it's just not gonna work for that mermelstein's affair...the color is wrong...."

"and now you're powering up the hill and your right on the tail of...

"No! She did not! She did? She did NOT!. She did! GAwd...can you believe it? I can't beleive it..."

The entire class would come and push over that nimrod's exerbike.

Submitted by NotCranky on September 7, 2013 - 8:31pm.

Yes I am that afraid to rid a bike far a wide on san diego streets and rural roads.
Though it seems more like being responsible and using common sense when children are dependent on me.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 8:32pm.

Blogstar wrote:
Yes I am that afraid to rid a bike far a wide on san diego streets and rural roads.
Though it seem more like being responsible and using common sense when children are dependent on me.

Risk averse but not unreasonable. there's gotta be a dirt road somewhere you can take for super low risk.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 8:36pm.

one thing i hate about bikes now is the illusion of speediness they give us. even if we are out of shape, we feel so swift. that is part of their beauty. everyone feels liek they could almost be the fastest cyclist int he world. but theya re like drugs, delusion inducing, a dream of flight.

weights on the other hand are sober, horrible reality. sisyphus. the sheer horrible effort of rearranging the earth for survival. there is nothing delusional about a giant stone, a steel bar, a bar you grab and pull yourself up.

Submitted by NotCranky on September 7, 2013 - 8:40pm.

I live in the hills and can ride 20 miles or more in dirt on "out and backs" from home, maybe way more . I just run though. I had a soft-tail mountain bike and never liked it . My kids have a BMX track.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 7, 2013 - 8:41pm.

running is not delusional. treadmills are.

bikes are like marijuana and spin bikes are like peyote.

weights are like water.

Submitted by NotCranky on September 7, 2013 - 8:49pm.

Weights are nice, but that "trying too hard" look does go everywhere you go. We really should be looking at what is best for our 80's. I know too much running isn't it, heavy weights probably aren't. Long live sport, or vanity, or testosterone, or freedom or whatever makes you tick though.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 8, 2013 - 6:26am.

is life all about longevity? maybe it's liek saving money for a time that will never come.

maybe the time is now.

the body must move this much is clear.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 8, 2013 - 6:28am.

I'm going to get into therapy, discuss this anger...

Submitted by meadandale on September 8, 2013 - 7:10am.

Blogstar wrote:
spdrun wrote:
Spin class ... bleeeeeech. I'd rather do the real thing, meaning an actually bike on roads or trails.

Sure on the road where you can coast. No coasting on these spin bikes.
I agree that it is boring....and not at all necessary....I have taken the one hour class exactly once. I went 30 miles.

No way you did 30 miles in an hour...

You can coast, you just let the flywheel pull your legs around.

As a roadie who logs about 200 miles/week and has done spin classes I can tell you that the classes are hard but they are not like riding a real bike and the class does little to get you in shape for real riding. But they are a nice diversion in the winter when the weather is bad and the days are short and it is hard to get out on a real bike.

Submitted by NotCranky on September 8, 2013 - 7:31am.

6packscaredy wrote:
is life all about longevity? maybe it's liek saving money for a time that will never come.

maybe the time is now.

the body must move this much is clear.

I understand, scaredy.

Submitted by NotCranky on September 8, 2013 - 7:32am.

meadandale wrote:
Blogstar wrote:
spdrun wrote:
Spin class ... bleeeeeech. I'd rather do the real thing, meaning an actually bike on roads or trails.

Sure on the road where you can coast. No coasting on these spin bikes.
I agree that it is boring....and not at all necessary....I have taken the one hour class exactly once. I went 30 miles.

No way you did 30 miles in an hour...

You can coast, you just let the flywheel pull your legs around.

As a roadie who logs about 200 miles/week and has done spin classes I can tell you that the classes are hard but they are not like riding a real bike and the class does little to get you in shape for real riding. But they are a nice diversion in the winter when the weather is bad and the days are short and it is hard to get out on a real bike.

There's no way you do 200 miles a week.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on September 8, 2013 - 8:57am.

200 miles a week is a lot of miles but not beyond amateurs. that's just one long 80-100 mile ride on the weekend and a few short rides during the week. you'd probably have to commute by bike if yu ahve a job and family to get anywhere close to 200 miles. I used to ride 150 a week from commuting alone and was pretty tired on the weekends. I was fit, but not super fit or super fast...my genetics kind of suck in that regard. I am always goign to be at the front of the slow pack or tailing way off the end of the back and losing sight of the fast pack, no matter what. because im slow. andkind of weak.

but 200 isn't crazy. 300-400 is where it starts to get nuts and pro or pro-wannabee like.

Still, 200 is a lot.

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