OT: Bernie Sanders interview...thoughts?

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Submitted by CA renter on September 14, 2012 - 3:00am

Bernie Sanders addresses some of the most significant issues of our time. Thoughts?

http://vimeo.com/49005698

Submitted by CA renter on September 15, 2012 - 12:33am.
Submitted by paramount on September 22, 2012 - 12:15pm.

Continuing on the excellent Bernie Sanders video, please, please take a look at this video with JV on cnn a few days ago (who is running in 2016):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7WGMGHNHfw

Watch and Learn....

Submitted by CA renter on September 23, 2012 - 3:28am.

paramount wrote:
Continuing on the excellent Bernie Sanders video, please, please take a look at this video with JV on cnn a few days ago (who is running in 2016):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7WGMGHNHfw

Watch and Learn....

I've always like Jesse Ventura and think this was an excellent interview. Thanks for sharing it.

He might be crazy, but he's also right (IMHO).

Submitted by CA renter on June 21, 2015 - 7:15pm.

Bumping this thread because he is now running for president and is drawing incredibly enthusiastic and large crowds at his events.

Read about his priorities on the right-hand side of his site. Discuss...

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/about

Submitted by FlyerInHi on June 24, 2015 - 12:49pm.

I like Vermont and the philosophy there.

I heard that you are automatically opted out of junk mailing lists. It's good that politicians are less beholden to business interests and care more about people.

Submitted by spdrun on June 24, 2015 - 12:59pm.

Vermont is a good combination of old-fashioned New England conservatism and anti-corporate liberalism.

Submitted by CA renter on June 25, 2015 - 4:35am.

FlyerInHi wrote:
I like Vermont and the philosophy there.

I heard that you are automatically opted out of junk mailing lists. It's good that politicians are less beholden to business interests and care more about people.

Agreed. And that is Bernie's platform. I absolutely love the man.

Submitted by EconProf on June 25, 2015 - 6:29pm.

Remember McGovern?
Please, Democrats, PLEASE make Bernie Sanders your candidate.

Submitted by harvey on June 25, 2015 - 10:07pm.

Why?

Submitted by harvey on June 25, 2015 - 10:06pm.

So we can elect another Nixon?

Submitted by FlyerInHi on June 28, 2015 - 1:09pm.

Bernie Sanders is too White, too boring and looks too much like a college professor. He won't get the nomination. But it's good that he's running because he's helping shape the platform.

Submitted by poorgradstudent on June 30, 2015 - 3:03pm.

FlyerInHi wrote:
Bernie Sanders is too White, too boring and looks too much like a college professor. He won't get the nomination. But it's good that he's running because he's helping shape the platform.

I like him, but he's too far Left to win in the general election. He's like a Huckabee or a Ted Cruz. At least he'll make the Democratic Debates a bit more interesting.

Submitted by no_such_reality on June 30, 2015 - 6:52pm.

I don't know, I think US society is approaching if not at the tipping point were the combination of young naive idealists and disenfranchised and marginalized people are becoming the majority. Even quite a few quite successful people recognize the increasingly capricious outcomes of the biased and often times corrupt system.

Historically that's been a bad combo.

Candidates like Hillary, Jeb, and Christy of the strong stink of same old BS all over them.

They all remind me of Amy screaming at the Pres in veep about be the last...

Submitted by CA renter on August 24, 2015 - 1:26am.

Another great video, with clips from over the decades, where Bernie Sanders discusses U.S. involvement Latin America and other countries...

[edited to add] And he speaks about the disappearance of the middle class and about the danger of going to war against Iraq.

The man is one of the most intelligent people to ever work in D.C., and his integrity is unparalleled, IMHO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfx6lnTr...

Submitted by spdrun on August 23, 2015 - 7:34pm.

Bernie Sanders is too White, too boring and looks too much like a college professor. He won't get the nomination.

Depends if we have the good luck to see Hillary withdraw for medical reasons right before the primary. She's already had one "incident."

Submitted by scaredyclassic on August 23, 2015 - 7:40pm.

no_such_reality wrote:
I don't know, I think US society is approaching if not at the tipping point were the combination of young naive idealists and disenfranchised and marginalized people are becoming the majority. Even quite a few quite successful people recognize the increasingly capricious outcomes of the biased and often times corrupt system.

Historically that's been a bad combo.

Candidates like Hillary, Jeb, and Christy of the strong stink of same old BS all over them.

They all remind me of Amy screaming at the Pres in veep about be the last...

Agree.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on August 23, 2015 - 7:41pm.

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” - Frank Zappa

Submitted by CA renter on August 24, 2015 - 1:27am.

scaredyclassic wrote:
“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” - Frank Zappa

Another incredibly intelligent and wise human being. Thanks for sharing the quote.

Submitted by AN on August 24, 2015 - 10:22am.

scaredyclassic wrote:
“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” - Frank Zappa
What's funny is, it requires freedom for him to be able to say exactly that.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 24, 2015 - 11:18am.

scaredyclassic wrote:
“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” - Frank Zappa

Illusions are always less expensive and more profitable, so the free markets will continue on.

The Romans knew that building everything of solid marble was wasteful. Build of dirt brick and cover with veneer.

Today we have stucco houses. But we don't want plain houses so we use foam architectural details covered in stucco. Gorgeous!

Submitted by FlyerInHi on November 8, 2016 - 11:58am.

Looks like the Bernie people are voting for Hillary. Not much protest voting on the left

With a Trump threat looming, the left gets behind Clinton
Final polls show Hillary Clinton enjoying party loyalty comparable to that of Barack Obama in his two campaigns.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...

Submitted by CA renter on November 9, 2016 - 7:14pm.

FlyerInHi wrote:
Looks like the Bernie people are voting for Hillary. Not much protest voting on the left

With a Trump threat looming, the left gets behind Clinton
Final polls show Hillary Clinton enjoying party loyalty comparable to that of Barack Obama in his two campaigns.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/11/07/with-a-trump-threat-looming-the-left-gets-behind-clinton/?hpid=hp_hp-bignews3_democrats-9p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

I know a lot of *very active* Bernie supporters. Very few were disappointed that Hillary lost. While many Bernie supporters either wrote in Bernie's name or voted for Jill Stein (including myself), a surprising number voted for Trump outright, many of them are people of color who know that the real divide is economic, not social.

After eight years of "hope and change" that brought even more wealth and power to the elite that we were fighting against in 2007-2008, people were done with the theatrics, propaganda, and empty words. We were going to have a populist president as the outcome of this general election, and there were only two choices: Bernie Sanders (the honest one with the integrity and long, consistent track record to back up what he was saying) or Donald Trump (a moronic tool of the elite who was used to "frighten" the unthinking into voting for HRC).

The DNC made their bed; now, they will have to lie in it. We warned them that this would happen.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on November 9, 2016 - 7:19pm.

i wish jill couldve done a little better. id have thpught theres more thsn 1 percent who are just envi r onment voters.

Submitted by CA renter on November 9, 2016 - 7:38pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
i wish jill couldve done a little better. id have thpught theres more thsn 1 percent who are just envi r onment voters.

Many of us are very surprised (and skeptical) about the vote percentages for Stein. I have a hard time believing that she got so few votes.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on November 9, 2016 - 8:54pm.

CArenter, Bernie supporters in CA were inconsequential.
What matttered was the blue wall that crumbled.

Hillary won Colorado and Virginia, rising states with more college graduates.

White non college folks in PA, MI, WI made the difference. We'll see if hopy changy works for them. This is the end of the line. I hope we don't hear more bitching from them after this.

I blame Blacks for not turning out also but they historically haven't, other than for Obama.

Submitted by enron_by_the_sea on November 9, 2016 - 10:16pm.

Bernie couldn't get Zaphyr Teachout elected in Blue NY.
He could not get prop 61 passed in blue CA.
He didn't do particularly well yesterday either

https://www.google.com/amp/observer.com/...

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essentia...

Submitted by NotCranky on November 10, 2016 - 9:40am.

CA renter wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
i wish jill couldve done a little better. id have thpught theres more thsn 1 percent who are just envi r onment voters.

Many of us are very surprised (and skeptical) about the vote percentages for Stein. I have a hard time believing that she got so few votes.

Another bog I participate on , which is well represented with posters from around the nation did a poll. Stein got about 3 of 200 votes. Mostly white males in the group as it's a sports thing. Hillary won though, which was surprising.

Submitted by CA renter on November 11, 2016 - 12:11am.

enron_by_the_sea wrote:
Bernie couldn't get Zaphyr Teachout elected in Blue NY.
He could not get prop 61 passed in blue CA.
He didn't do particularly well yesterday either

https://www.google.com/amp/observer.com/...

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-bernie-sanders-campaigns-for-prop-61-in-1478559924-htmlstory.html

I was very surprised by Teachout's loss. Not sure what happened there, as she has a tremendous reputation and is far more likely to "drain the swamp" than Trump would be.

The pharmaceutical industry threw a lot of money at opposing Prop 61. That being said, I spoke with an attorney -- a very liberal/progressive person -- who manages claims at the VA, and she said that Prop 61 could just as likely raise prices at the VA, so that would have forced the govt to pay more there, and forced regular patients to pay more, too (but maybe less than now?). I voted for it, but know that it wasn't as clear-cut as some might think.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on October 29, 2018 - 1:13pm.

My new favorite economist is Jeffrey Sachs. He was an economic advisor to Bernie Sanders. His views are very reasonable.

Donald Trump would agree that he has the looks a demeanor of a thinker and honorable person.

Bernie was against TPP as a populist argument. But Jeffreys Sachs supports free trade and he explains it very well. Trade enlarges the econmic pie which is a win win. It's up to us what we do with the pie. China and Mexico are not the problem.

Jeff Sachs, said we lost our way and need to change. That's a very complex message to sell to the American public.

https://youtu.be/fWPCkoY5T8U

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