OT: A missile is launched by ???

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Submitted by enron_by_the_sea on November 9, 2010 - 2:11pm

In an increasingly bizarre story, a missile-like object was video taped by southern Californian news crews shooting up over the Pacific Ocean at a rapid rate, leaving behind a large contrail, or vapor trail.

The mystery has deepened as sources at the Pentagon claim to know nothing of the missile. Stated Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan, "Nobody within the Department of Defense that we've reached out to has been able to explain what this contrail is, where it came from... It does seem implausible, and that's why at this point the operative term is 'unexplained'.

http://www.dailytech.com/Mystery+Missile...

Submitted by javatestcase on November 9, 2010 - 2:23pm.

L Ron Hubbard has returned to save us from those pesky Mexicans on the Coronado Islands...

Submitted by desmond on November 9, 2010 - 4:09pm.

It was launched from Vandenberg AFB:

http://www.vandenberg.af.mil/news/story....

This guy was able to see it in San Diego:
I was able to observe the launch reasonably well from my home in San Diego. After initially focusing on what turned out to be an aircraft that had just turned on its landing lights on approach to Lindbergh field, I finally located the vehicle climbing on its first stage engines at around 2 minutes 30 seconds into its flight (long after solid rocket booster burnout and jettison). I was easily able to fillow the vehicle's incandescent exhaust as it accelerated, finally climbing into the sun during last 30-45 seconds of the first stage burn. Once it got into the light, the typical bulbous form of the hyperexpanding exhaust was revealed. After first stage burnout, I was unable to track the second stage — which is not terribly surprising since the second stage engine is much smaller.
All in all, this flight resulted in a much better experience than I was expecting.
Russ Schnapp
San Diego, CA

Last January I was driving near Santa Barbara up the mountain that overlooks the ocean and saw a launch early a.m while it was still dark, it was spectacular and I was actually able to see the second stage deploy. Here is the future launch schedule link:http://www.spacearchive.info/vafbsked.htm

Submitted by blahblahblah on November 9, 2010 - 4:18pm.

It wasn't the Vandenberg launch, that was Nov. 5. This one was last night (Nov. 8). More info here.

The best case is that this was a Polaris missile test. The worst case is that someone was testing a Club K container missile system.

Submitted by bearishgurl on November 9, 2010 - 4:49pm.

enron_by_the_sea wrote:
. . . The mystery has deepened as sources at the Pentagon claim to know nothing of the missile. Stated Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan, "Nobody within the Department of Defense that we've reached out to has been able to explain what this contrail is, where it came from... It does seem implausible, and that's why at this point the operative term is 'unexplained'. . .

I watched CONCHO's SD-8 News video.

The Pentagon is "playing dumb" here and has not authorized any dissemination of the incident yet, IMHO.

Submitted by Effective Demand on November 9, 2010 - 9:38pm.

Its just an airplane coming from the horizon towards shore which causes an optical illusion of it climbing. The winds aloft are catching the contrails making it look like a parabolic arc. It is much ado about nothing.

Submitted by blahblahblah on November 10, 2010 - 9:34am.

Effective Demand wrote:
Its just an airplane coming from the horizon towards shore which causes an optical illusion of it climbing. The winds aloft are catching the contrails making it look like a parabolic arc. It is much ado about nothing.

Former deputy secretary of defense Robert Ellsworth doesn't think so.

Clearly, nothing to see here. Everyone move along!

Submitted by Ren on November 10, 2010 - 11:24am.

These aren't the droids you're looking for.

Submitted by enron_by_the_sea on November 10, 2010 - 11:29am.

The Office of Defense Secretary Robert Gates issued a statement today saying that the mystery contrail seen in the skies off Los Angeles County late Monday came from an aircraft, not a missile, as many have speculated.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/...

Cover up ???? :) :)

Submitted by patb on November 10, 2010 - 6:05pm.

enron_by_the_sea wrote:
The Office of Defense Secretary Robert Gates issued a statement today saying that the mystery contrail seen in the skies off Los Angeles County late Monday came from an aircraft, not a missile, as many have speculated.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/...

Cover up ???? :) :)

I'd like to see some details
such as

1) FAA Surveillance radar shows no unexpected returns

2) Radar at Pt Mugu and Vandenberg shows no returns.

3) DSP satellite XX shows no unexpected signatures.

4) SOSUS and Acoustic sensors show no unexpected signatures.

Submitted by blahblahblah on November 10, 2010 - 6:13pm.

patb wrote:
enron_by_the_sea wrote:
The Office of Defense Secretary Robert Gates issued a statement today saying that the mystery contrail seen in the skies off Los Angeles County late Monday came from an aircraft, not a missile, as many have speculated.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/...

Cover up ???? :) :)

I'd like to see some details
such as

1) FAA Surveillance radar shows no unexpected returns

2) Radar at Pt Mugu and Vandenberg shows no returns.

3) DSP satellite XX shows no unexpected signatures.

4) SOSUS and Acoustic sensors show no unexpected signatures.

We don't have those, but we do have the USA Notice to Mariners Nov. 6 2010.

*** On Page 55 ***

434/10(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
MISSILES.
1. INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z
DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER
SEA RANGE. THE MAJORITY OF MISSILE FIRINGS TAKE PLACE
1400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY
IN AREA BOUND BY
34-02N 119-04W, 33-52N 119-06W, 33-29N 118-37W,
33-20N 118-37W, 32-11N 120-16W, 31-54N 121-35W,
35-09N 123-39W, 35-29N 123-00W, 35-57N 121-32W,
34-04N 119-04W.
2. VESSELS MAY BE REQUESTED TO ALTER COURSE WITHIN THE ABOVE
AREA DUE TO FIRING OPERATIONS AND ARE REQUESTED TO CONTACT
PLEAD CONTROL ON 5081.5 MHZ (5080 KHZ) OR 3238.5 KHZ (3237 KHZ)
SECONDARY OR 156.8 MHZ (CH 16) OR 127.55 MHZ BEFORE ENTERING
THE ABOVE BOUNDARIES AND MAINTAIN CONTINUOUS GUARD WHILE
WITHIN THE RANGE.
3. VESSELS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PORTS
WILL CREATE THE LEAST INTERFERENCE TO FIRING OPERATIONS
DURING THE SPECIFIC PERIODS, AS WELL AS ENHANCE THE VESSEL'S
SAFETY WHEN PASSING THROUGH THE VICINITY OF THE SEA RANGE
IF THEY WILL TRANSIT VIA THE SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL AND WITHIN
NINE MILES OFFSHORE VICINITY OF POINT MUGU OR CROSS THE AREA
SOUTHWEST OF SAN NICOLAS ISLAND BETWEEN SUNSET AND SUNRISE.

Submitted by Zeitgeist on November 10, 2010 - 6:22pm.

Chinese. Check mate.

Submitted by permabear on November 10, 2010 - 6:30pm.

enron_by_the_sea wrote:
The Office of Defense Secretary Robert Gates issued a statement today saying that the mystery contrail seen in the skies off Los Angeles County late Monday came from an aircraft, not a missile, as many have speculated ... Cover up ???? :) :)

[Lieutenant Johnson] Hey, what does this button do?

Submitted by Eugene on November 11, 2010 - 3:55pm.

patb wrote:

I'd like to see some details
such as

1) FAA Surveillance radar shows no unexpected returns

2) Radar at Pt Mugu and Vandenberg shows no returns.

3) DSP satellite XX shows no unexpected signatures.

4) SOSUS and Acoustic sensors show no unexpected signatures.

the question is how you're going to determine what's expected and what's unexpected. At any given moment, there are probably 10 planes within a 50 mile radius from the spot where the alleged missile was launched.

Quote:
We don't have those, but we do have the USA Notice to Mariners Nov. 6 2010.

This probably refers to cruise missile testing. The object in the video, if it's not an airplane contrail, has to be a SLBM. To my knowledge, the DoD isn't working on new SLBMs, they had no reason to for the last 20 years, and, in any event, no sane person is going to authorise a SLBM test within a 100 mile range of the busiest airport on the West Coast, without coordinating with FAA and making damn sure that every pilot in the area knows about the test.

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