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Submitted by zk on November 9, 2016 - 7:53am

President Donald Trump.

Jesus.

You idiots have gone and done it.

Dear trump voter,

You've been bamboozled. Tricked.

You're a chump. A fool.

You think he's going to build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it? You're a credulous buffoon.

You think he's going to "fix" Washington? "Drain the swamp?" You've been hoodwinked.

You think he's going to be able to deal effectively with foreign leaders? Especially ones that criticize him? You're a fool.

You think he's going to bring jobs back to America? You're deluded.

You think he's going to lead with any kind of common sense, even after all the things he's said and done? You're blind.

You think his threats to not pay our debts will have no effect? Think again.

You think his desire to throttle free speech when it insults him is a good thing? You'd probably "vote" for Mussolini.

You think his isolationist ideas will be good for America? Even if that did turn out to be true (highly doubtful), you're a selfish bastard.

You think his rhetoric on women and minorities and foreigners won't continue to have a corrosive effect on our society? You're deplorable.

You think he'll take any responsibility for his actions and mistakes when he hasn't done anything of the sort ever? You’re a credulous bumpkin.

You don't care that he didn't know Russia invaded Ukraine and didn't know what the nuclear triad is? You're ignorant.

He’s shown you virtually no detailed policy proposals, yet you think whatever he comes up with will be good for you? Jesus, that’s pathetic.

You think he's a good businessman? You're easily tricked. He started with millions of dollars and then cheated, lied, stole, declared bankruptcy, and still didn't make more than an index fund would've.

You don't care that he didn't release his tax returns? You are, pathetically, a pigeon in the thrall of a Barnum.

You don't care that he didn't pay hard-working people he had promised to pay? And you still think he's for the "little guy?" You're a patsy.

You're glad to have a president who thinks climate change is a Chinese hoax? Your children and your grandchildren and your great-grandchildren will pay for that.

You don’t care about all the misogynistic, xenophobic comments that he made? You’ve chosen a disastrous role model for your children and grandchildren and the results of that are your fault.

You think it's a good thing that he wants the military to follow orders from him even if they're illegal? You live in a fantasy world.

You think it’s ok to threaten to not honor our NATO obligations? You have made the world a more dangerous place.

You put in office a “man” who wants more countries to have nuclear weapons? You’ve added even more danger.

You gave the nuclear codes to a man who responds to every insult with an attack? My god, what the fuck is wrong with you?

You put in office a man who wants to kill the families of terrorists? You're a sorry excuse for a human being.

You think he cares about you or about this country or about anything but his fucked-up, orange self? You're a joke.

You're glad that idiots like you have been given a voice? You're about to find out just how much of an idiot you are and that you should have just shut the fuck up.

Submitted by zk on May 15, 2017 - 7:53pm.

This is our president:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...

I would just say, "good god, what a loser." But that's something you say about someone who means nothing. This narcissistic buffoon is our president. He's a menace to our country.

If you're one of the millions of con man don voters who still think he's doing a good job, stop watching fox. It's not news. It's propaganda. It, and you, are ruining our country.

Submitted by outtamojo on May 15, 2017 - 10:31pm.

Incompetetent "businessman " vs veteran spymaster , what could go wrong?

Submitted by FlyerInHi on May 16, 2017 - 12:28am.

zk, this shows how irresponsible Republicans are.

I met this very nice but uneducated woman from Dakota who teared up watching Lee Greewood's God Bess the USA at the Bellagio Fountain. Then she started to talk about Syria in a totally uninformed manner. She's not a Trump supporter because there's some diversity in her family. He uncle lives in San Diego and married a Japanese woman he met in the Navy. But she could have been a Trump voter.

People like that lady are so easily manipulated by nationalism and patriotism; and that's exactly what the Republicans are doing. They are failing that test of leadership which is to lead while educating and enlightening.

Yes, our country is being destroyed. The cynical in me is thinking "screw 'em dumb asses." I have more in common with cosmopolitans (I use this word in a literal sense) in New York, LA, Tokyo, London, Berlin... than people in middle America. I just hope that technology will allow us to link together to advance progressive universal values in resistance to demagogue politicians.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on May 17, 2017 - 9:27am.

The sad part is that the deplorables think that the establishment is taking down their man; that he's not responsible for all he's done.

Rather than take reaponsiculity for their own lives, they will blame the TPTB, the global elites, for whatever misery they suffer. Such irony.... people who preach bootstrapping ending up entitled whiners.

Submitted by zk on June 16, 2017 - 3:00pm.

I initially wanted to keep a running tab here on this thread of the ridiculous/stupid/ignorant/dangerous/bad-for-the-country/insane/foolish/unfathomable/selfish/infantile/paranoid/immoral/hypocritical things that con man don was doing - or trying to do - as president. You know, for posterity. So people could look back and remember just what it was like in this crazy time and just how consistently, terrifically horrible con man don was as president. I realized a day or two after he took office that I wouldn't have time to do that. And it's accelerated since then.

If anybody here has the 'nads to admit that they still support our president, I'd be very curious to hear why.

Submitted by spdrun on June 16, 2017 - 3:01pm.

I support him, because after he's done (if we survive without nuclear holocaust), he'll make the GOP unelectable for the next 20 years.

Submitted by zk on June 16, 2017 - 4:32pm.

spdrun wrote:
I support him, because after he's done (if we survive without nuclear holocaust), he'll make the GOP unelectable for the next 20 years.

Don't we wish. As long as they have fox propaganda and the rest of the right-wing propaganda machine, they'll be fine. Seriously, if they can get this buffoon elected, they can get somebody like Kasich elected without breaking a sweat, even post-trump.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on June 17, 2017 - 12:30am.

I support Trumo because he's unmasked the deplorable elements of America.

It's up to honorable people to shame them into submission.

Trump voters are like segregationists of the past. They are on the wrong side of history and only bring shame to their families. If my parents were Trump voters I wouldn't talk to them until they apologize.

Submitted by zk on June 17, 2017 - 7:26am.

FlyerInHi wrote:

It's up to honorable people to shame them into submission.

You can't shame somebody who thinks they're right. And even if you could, I don't think submission would be the result.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on June 18, 2017 - 1:20pm.

zk wrote:
FlyerInHi wrote:

It's up to honorable people to shame them into submission.

You can't shame somebody who thinks they're right. And even if you could, I don't think submission would be the result.

Well it takes time.... It's only now that progressive cities who want to be part of the creative economy are removing monuments to segregation.

Trump voters are the last hooray of nationalist culture, which is very 19th century, early 20th century. We are now in 21st century postnationalism of universal human rights.

Shame the deplorables, boycott them, whatever it takes.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on July 6, 2017 - 11:58am.

Trump is not only screwed up on a humanitarian level, he's making us all poorer.

Trump is squandering our competitive research advantage in green tech and renewables.

China is moving ahead with a $1 trillion infractruture project for the developing world (Belt and Road) not counting the home projects. China just completed a train in Kenya that will bring them influence and goodwill in Africa.

China, Canada, Australia are working on a trade agreement.

TPP countries are kissing ass to China

Europe and Japan have a new trade agreement.

Our brand image, our most important asset, is being eroded all over the world. People are laughing at us. Maybe Trump is marking the end of the American Century.

We are so screwed. If you care about money and wealth you need to get rid of Trump.

Submitted by zk on August 8, 2017 - 7:43pm.

It keeps getting worse.

Threatening North Korea:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...

He's just a flat out moron. He should be trying to sound firm and reasonable. Instead he's trying to sound like a tough guy. And then he can't even do that right. He just comes off like a 12-year-old, and a not-very-bright one at that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPwEepVxBOo

Submitted by spdrun on August 8, 2017 - 7:55pm.

Didn't the Norkies threaten to blow up Guam first?

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 8, 2017 - 8:17pm.

spdrun wrote:
Didn't the Norkies threaten to blow up Guam first?

Guam came after. So now, what is Trumo gonna do after the Norkies crossed the red line he just set?

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 8, 2017 - 8:34pm.

zk wrote:
It keeps getting worse.

Threatening North Korea:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...

He's just a flat out moron. He should be trying to sound firm and reasonable. Instead he's trying to sound like a tough guy. And then he can't even do that right. He just comes off like a 12-year-old, and a not-very-bright one at that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPwEepVxBOo

My dad knows lots of people in the diplomatic community. They all say the world now just ignores Trump because he is just so ignorant of the issues.

He just wants to be tough for his base.

Trump issued the ultimate threat in response to a Washington Post story about intelligence assessment on PRK capability, not in response to a direct threat by North Korea. Remember the failing WP?

So North Korea follows up with the Guam threat. Then what?

For a negotiator, Trump is really dumb.

Submitted by zk on August 9, 2017 - 12:55pm.

Truman:

"they may expect a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth."

con man don:

"They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen."

This unfathomably ignorant and barely sentient jackass probably thought, in his dangerously disorganized and pitifully weak brain, "hey, they still love Truman for this quote, if I say it, they'll still love me in 72 years, too." Although maybe he thought 152 years, as he probably thinks Truman said this sometime around the civil war.

Submitted by zk on August 9, 2017 - 1:00pm.

"The president’s advisers are warning against reading too much into his ‘fire and fury’ talk against North Korea."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/09...

So the upshot is that you can't take seriously what the president of the United States says?

As dangerous and terrible as that is, it's probably less dangerous and terrible than taking what this particular president says seriously.

A couple of great options you trump voters have left us with. Didn't see this coming, huh?

Morons.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 9, 2017 - 1:07pm.

Zk, we elected a dumbass. The world is laughing at us despite Trump's claim to the contrary. The world respected and admired us for electing Obama. Now they see that the White House is being ignored by the pentagon, comtradicted by state, etc... America is rudderless.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 9, 2017 - 1:10pm.

zk wrote:
"The president’s advisers are warning against reading too much into his ‘fire and fury’ talk against North Korea."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/09...

So the upshot is that you can't take seriously what the president of the United States says?

As dangerous and terrible as that is, it's probably less dangerous and terrible than taking what this particular president says seriously.

A couple of great options you trump voters have left us with. Didn't see this coming, huh?

I should turn on Fox News to see how they compare it Obama' s red line in Syria.

It took the DPRK mere hours to cross Trump's red line.

Morons.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 9, 2017 - 1:12pm.

zk wrote:
"The president’s advisers are warning against reading too much into his ‘fire and fury’ talk against North Korea."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/09...

So the upshot is that you can't take seriously what the president of the United States says?

As dangerous and terrible as that is, it's probably less dangerous and terrible than taking what this particular president says seriously.

A couple of great options you trump voters have left us with. Didn't see this coming, huh?

Morons.

I should turn on Fox News to see how they compare it to Obama' s red line in Syria.

It took the DPRK mere hours to cross Trump's red line.

Submitted by SK in CV on August 9, 2017 - 3:10pm.

zk wrote:
"The president’s advisers are warning against reading too much into his ‘fire and fury’ talk against North Korea."

Distraction. They're all repeating the "fire and fury" part. That happens all over the world on pretty regular basis. Pretty nebulous words. The real problem were the next few words. "like the world has never seen". That's not an attack on a mosque or a church. It's not driving down a busy street and using a big truck as a weapon. Or an attack with multiple weapons on a night club. It's not even using deadly gas on your own people, as Assad is accused of doing. The world HAS seen Hiroshima and Nagasaki. His words mean something. They mean something very specific.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 9, 2017 - 3:32pm.

SK in CV wrote:
zk wrote:
"The president’s advisers are warning against reading too much into his ‘fire and fury’ talk against North Korea."

Distraction. They're all repeating the "fire and fury" part. That happens all over the world on pretty regular basis. Pretty nebulous words. The real problem were the next few words. "like the world has never seen". That's not an attack on a mosque or a church. It's not driving down a busy street and using a big truck as a weapon. Or an attack with multiple weapons on a night club. It's not even using deadly gas on your own people, as Assad is accused of doing. The world HAS seen Hiroshima and Nagasaki. His words mean something. They mean something very specific.

Yes,SK. There is no backtracking from that without losing face.

Some people are saying Trump has been practicing the phrase looking for an opportunity to use it. It slipped out of his peewee brain at the wrong time.

Submitted by zk on August 9, 2017 - 5:14pm.

SK in CV wrote:

Distraction. They're all repeating the "fire and fury" part. That happens all over the world on pretty regular basis. Pretty nebulous words. The real problem were the next few words. "like the world has never seen". That's not an attack on a mosque or a church. It's not driving down a busy street and using a big truck as a weapon. Or an attack with multiple weapons on a night club. It's not even using deadly gas on your own people, as Assad is accused of doing. The world HAS seen Hiroshima and Nagasaki. His words mean something. They mean something very specific.

You lost me. The way I read it, he was threatening to use nuclear weapons against them the next time they threatened us. His advisers said, "don't read anything into" his fire and fury talk/speech which, as far as I can tell, basically means that they're saying that he didn't mean what he obviously meant (nuclear attack).

And obviously he didn't really mean it, because North Korea threatened us a few hours later, and they're still there.

What do you mean by "distraction?"

Submitted by SK in CV on August 9, 2017 - 5:40pm.

zk wrote:
You lost me. The way I read it, he was threatening to use nuclear weapons against them the next time they threatened us. His advisers said, "don't read anything into" his fire and fury talk/speech which, as far as I can tell, basically means that they're saying that he didn't mean what he obviously meant (nuclear attack).

And obviously he didn't really mean it, because North Korea threatened us a few hours later, and they're still there.

What do you mean by "distraction?"

I've heard half a dozen surrogates today. Every one of them says the "fire and fury" part, without hesitation. Some of them use it repeatedly. And then go on to say that it's not a big deal. As if to say "fire and fury" are no big thing. And they're right. But those were not the important words. None of them use the words that followed.

And yes, he was either consciously threatening to use nuclear weapons, or is so f'ing stupid, he didn't realize what the words he used meant.

That he's not competent is proven once again.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 9, 2017 - 7:15pm.

Yeah, "the likes of which the world has never seen before" are the words that made Trump's statement a nuclear threat. "Fire and fury" could mean anything short of nuclear war.

Then he goes on to tweet:
My first order as President was to renovate and modernize our nuclear arsenal. It is now far stronger and more powerful than ever before....

A blatant lie. What fist order? There will be a different first order sometime in the future. Trump is full of shit and a compulsive liar.

Trump has a speech compulsion to add "greatest ever", "than ever before". He says that about people he hires, then he fires them within weeks which certainly don't make those guys "the greatest ever".

Submitted by harvey on August 10, 2017 - 7:50am.
Submitted by SK in CV on August 10, 2017 - 8:49am.

For every stupid new tweet, there is a stupid old tweet. Turn, turn, turn.

Submitted by Hobie on August 10, 2017 - 10:12am.

All this talk is just posturing. By both sides. What will Kim do next if he indeed bombs US interests? Invade?

He will be opening a large can of whoop azz on himself not only by the US, but China and SKorea possibly even be invaded by Russia.

Submitted by harvey on August 10, 2017 - 10:19am.

The complex history of the Korea situation can be distilled down to two simple questions:

Question 1: When will the North Korean regime collapse internally?

There's universal agreement that the answer is "not anytime soon" no matter what any outside nation does.

Question 2: Will hostilities break out between the North and South?

For 60+ years, the answer has been a tenuous "no" and it is important to keep it that way because even the most optimistic wartime scenarios involve the death of tens of thousands of Koreans and hundreds of Americans.

And that's the very best-case scenario - there are many plausible outcomes that are far worse.

Why would any person encourage these events?

Kim does it because he's a childish dictator.

Trump does it because he's a ...

Submitted by FlyerInHi on August 10, 2017 - 11:42am.

harvey wrote:

Kim does it because he's a childish dictator.

Trump does it because he's a ...

Trump does it to show "strength". The normative thinking of his base is about being badass all the time. Because when you're badass nobody will mess with you.

Trump and his voters don't think about consequences. As long as we are badass, the outcome will be good.

This articles explains very well the fundamental value differences between liberals and conservatives.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...

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