Fuck tha police

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Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 30, 2020 - 9:42am

Classic song, by n.w.a. 1988.

Wow. 32 years old.

Still fresh. Couldnt say that about 32 year old tunes in 1988. Maybe time has stopped and we are living in a crappy repetitive present.

"Right about now, N.W.A. court is in full effect
Judge Dre presiding
In the case of N.W.A. vs. the Police Department
Prosecuting attorneys are: MC Ren, Ice Cube
And Eazy motherfuckin' E"
"Order, order, order
Ice Cube, take the motherfuckin' stand
Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth
And nothin' but the truth so help your black ass?"
"You god damn right!"
"Well, won't you tell everybody what the fuck you gotta say?"
Fuck the police comin' straight from the underground
A young nigga got it bad 'cause I'm brown
And not the other color so police think
They have the authority to kill a minority
Fuck that shit, 'cause I ain't the one
For a punk motherfucker with a badge and a gun
To be beatin' on, and thrown in jail
We can go toe to toe in the middle of a cell
Fuckin' with me 'cause I'm a teenager
With a little bit of gold and a pager
Searchin' my car, lookin' for the product
Thinkin' every nigga is sellin' narcotics
You'd rather see, me in the pen
Than me and Lorenzo rollin' in a Benz-o
Beat a police out of shape
And when I'm finished, bring the yellow tape
To tape off the scene of the slaughter
Still gettin' swoll off bread and water
I don't know if they fags or what
Search a nigga down, and grabbin' his nuts
And on the other hand, without a gun they can't get none
But don't let it be a black and a white one
'Cause they'll slam ya down to the street top
Black police showin' out for the white cop
Ice Cube will swarm
On any motherfucker in a blue uniform
Just 'cause I'm from the CPT
Punk police are afraid of me!
Huh, a young nigga on the warpath
And when I'm finished, it's gonna be a bloodbath
Of cops, dyin' in L.A.
Yo Dre, I got somethin' to say
Fuck the police
Fuck the police
Fuck the police
Fuck the Police
"Example of scene one"
"Pull your god damn ass over right now"
"Aww shit, now what the fuck you pullin' me over for?"
"'Cause I feel like it!
Just sit your ass on the curb and shut the fuck up"
"Man, fuck this shit"
"Aight, smart ass, I'm takin' your black ass to jail!"
"MC Ren, will you please give your testimony
To the jury about this fucked up incident?"
Fuck the police and Ren said it with authority
Because the niggas on the street is a majority
A gang, is with whoever I'm steppin'
And the motherfuckin' weapon is kept in
A stash box, for the so-called law
Wishin' Ren was a nigga that they never saw
Lights start flashin' behind me
But they're scared of a nigga so they mace me to blind me
But that shit don't work, I just laugh
Because it gives 'em a hint, not to step in my path
For police, I'm sayin, "Fuck you, punk!"
Readin' my rights and shit, it's all junk
Pullin' out a silly club, so you stand
With a fake-ass badge and a gun in your hand
But take off the gun so you can see what's up
And we'll go at it, punk, and I'ma fuck you up!
Make you think I'ma kick your ass
But drop your gat, and Ren's gonna blast
I'm sneaky as fuck when it comes to crime
But I'm a smoke 'em now and not next time
Smoke any motherfucker that sweats me
Or any asshole that threatens me
I'm a sniper with a hell of a scope
Takin' out a cop or two, they can't cope with me
The motherfuckin' villain that's mad
With potential to get bad as fuck
So I'ma turn it around
Put in my clip, yo, and this is the sound
Yeah, somethin' like that
But it all depends on the size of the gat
Takin' out a police would make my day
But a nigga like Ren don't give a fuck to say
Fuck the police
Fuck the police
Fuck the police
Fuck the Police
"Yeah man, what you need?"
"Police, open now"
"Aww shit"
"We have a warrant for Eazy-E's arrest
Get down and put your hands up where I can see 'em"
"What the fuck did I do, man, what did I do?"
"Just shut the fuck up
And get your motherfuckin' ass on the floor"
"But I didn't do shit"
"Man, just shut the fuck up!"
"Eazy-E, won't you step up to the stand
And tell the jury how you feel about this bullshit?"
I'm tired of the motherfuckin' jackin'
Sweatin' my gang, while I'm chillin' in the shack, and
Shinin' the light in my face, and for what?
Maybe it's because I kick so much butt
I kick ass, or maybe 'cause I blast
On a stupid-assed nigga when I'm playin' with the trigger
Of an Uzi or an AK
'Cause the police always got somethin' stupid to say
They put out my picture with silence
'Cause my identity by itself causes violence
The E with the criminal behavior
Yeah, I'm a gangsta, but still I got flavor
Without a gun and a badge, what do ya got?
A sucker in a uniform waitin' to get shot
By me or another nigga
And with a gat it don't matter if he's smaller or bigger
(Size ain't shit, he's from the old school, fool)
And as you all know, E's here to rule
Whenever I'm rollin', keep lookin' in the mirror
And ears on cue, yo, so I can hear a
Dumb motherfucker with a gun
And if I'm rollin' off the 8, he'll be the one
That I take out, and then get away
While I'm drivin' off laughin', this is what I'll say
Fuck the police
Fuck the police
Fuck the police
Fuck the Police
"The verdict
The jury has found you guilty of being a redneck
White bread, chicken shit motherfucker"
"But wait, that's a lie!
That's a god damn lie!"
"Get him out of here!"
"I want justice!"
"Get him the fuck out my face!"
"I want justice!"
"Out, right now!"
"Fuck you, you black motherfuckers!"
Fuck the police
Fuck the police
Fuck the police

Submitted by svelte on May 30, 2020 - 11:52am.

Well lets not lump all police together.

I have a few that are close personal friends of mine and I can tell you that, at least my police friends, are very intelligent, warm, and funny people. And I can assure you they are not racists in the least. Far from it.

Are there bad apples? Sure. But the majority that I've personally met are great folks.

The one common trait I do see is that they like to step in if they see an injustice...I'm more picky and let sleeping dogs lie until it gets to be too bad to ignore. They step in way earlier than I do. Which spooks me sometimes but they are probably way more used to it and know they can have their uniformed buddies on the scene in just a couple of minutes. Me, I can't say that.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 30, 2020 - 12:04pm.

svelte wrote:
Well lets not lump all police together.

I have a few that are close personal friends of mine and I can tell you that, at least my police friends, are very intelligent, warm, and funny people. And I can assure you they are not racists in the least. Far from it.

Are there bad apples? Sure. But the majority that I've personally met are great folks.

The one common trait I do see is that they like to step in if they see an injustice...I'm more picky and let sleeping dogs lie until it gets to be too bad to ignore. They step in way earlier than I do. Which spooks me sometimes but they are probably way more used to it and know they can have their uniformed buddies on the scene in just a couple of minutes. Me, I can't say that.

I wish I could take credit for this, but as Chris Rock said....
I know it's hard being a cop … But some jobs can't have bad apples. Some jobs, everybody gotta be good. Like, pilots. American Airlines can't be like, 'You know, most of our pilots like to land, we just got a few bad apples that like to crash into mountains.'

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 30, 2020 - 12:05pm.

Here was 4 that thought it was cool to choke a guy out on film.

Is that a bad apple or a systemic thing.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 30, 2020 - 12:05pm.

Dont get me wrong. I call 911 when im in trouble. But if i had bern dealt a different hand i prolly would avoid the cops

Submitted by svelte on May 30, 2020 - 2:29pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
Dont get me wrong. I call 911 when im in trouble. But if i had bern dealt a different hand i prolly would avoid the cops

Can't say that I seek them out either, best to stay clear cuz I just never know if i'm doing something on the edge of illegal - why tempt fate.

It's just that the lyric "f the police" implies that they are all bad - and they are not. Just a few bad apples. Just as bad as saying all lawyers are ambulance chasers.

Do they need to be weeded out? Absolutely! no question about that.

They do exist just as bad pilots exist. Such as the one who tried to land in Pakistan with his landing gear up, killing 97 of 99 on board this month.

https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/paki...

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 31, 2020 - 11:27am.

If u have 10 bad cops and 1000 good cops, and the 1000 good cops dont turn in the bad cops, you have 1,010 bad cops .

Which is prety much the set up. You cant snitch and make it as a cop. No way.

Its pretty weedy. No one can keep thrir job and call a weed a weed.

Is the current system essentially fair and good, is our policing system basicalky just cept for a few bad apples?

Where you stand depends on your zip code

Submitted by ltsddd on May 31, 2020 - 12:21pm.

Attitude, empathy and compassion make a world of difference.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/us/flint-...

Submitted by Hobie on May 31, 2020 - 12:27pm.

Don't piss into the wind and don't do stuff that attracts cops. duh

Submitted by outtamojo on May 31, 2020 - 12:33pm.

sleeping in one's own home shouldn't get one killed, but it does.
Storming a gov building carrying arms should attract cops yes, but nobody got killed from that group.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 31, 2020 - 12:39pm.

Hobie wrote:
Don't piss into the wind and don't do stuff that attracts cops. duh

Being black definitely arouses suspicion. A fully masked society would at least cut down on bad stops.

Best course of action is to be born not black to family of good means. Duh.

Submitted by ltsddd on May 31, 2020 - 12:43pm.

Hobie wrote:
Don't piss into the wind and don't do stuff that attracts cops. duh

Yeah. Like while sitting at a Starbucks shop while black. duh

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 31, 2020 - 12:46pm.

Anyone who still insists on being black in this society is just bring hardheaded and stubborn. They judt need to get with the program and be white.

Submitted by svelte on May 31, 2020 - 3:12pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
If u have 10 bad cops and 1000 good cops, and the 1000 good cops dont turn in the bad cops, you have 1,010 bad cops .

Which is prety much the set up. You cant snitch and make it as a cop. No way.

There are channels in the PD for officers to report other officers. You and I are not privy to how often that channel is used for privacy reasons.

But I can imagine that the police union is a lot like the teachers union, meaning it is difficult to get a union member removed.

If a police dept has a bad apple, I don't we can assume it is because his fellow officers didn't report the bad apple. As one of my friend officers said recently, nobody hates a bad officer more than a good officer. Nobody.

Submitted by outtamojo on May 31, 2020 - 3:51pm.

Be that as it may or however things are done or under what conditions the time for excuses is OVER.

If there are as many good cops as you say then it would be an easy matter to allow into their next contract more oversight and easier removal of bad cops.
Blaming Unions is always the route of the lazy and incompetent.

Most unions operate on the basis of a contract that must be ratified by majority vote of its members so if oversight and ways to remove bad cops dont make it into the contract that would indicate that cops not interested in policing their own are the majority.

So a good cop that say he/ she hates bad cops but not doing anything or allowing the change that would remove the bad cop is just the ultimate in hypocrisy.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 31, 2020 - 4:02pm.

svelte wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
If u have 10 bad cops and 1000 good cops, and the 1000 good cops dont turn in the bad cops, you have 1,010 bad cops .

Which is prety much the set up. You cant snitch and make it as a cop. No way.

There are channels in the PD for officers to report other officers. You and I are not privy to how often that channel is used for privacy reasons.

But I can imagine that the police union is a lot like the teachers union, meaning it is difficult to get a union member removed.

If a police dept has a bad apple, I don't we can assume it is because his fellow officers didn't report the bad apple. As one of my friend officers said recently, nobody hates a bad officer more than a good officer. Nobody.

https://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-poli...

oh, police officers do not routinely snitch on each other. Your buddies are lying. they dont' like cops who make them look bad, but they don't file complaints on each other except in unusually rare occasions, and only then when they think it's going to come back at them. Like, no way that is common.

Civilian complaints go nowhere. Intercop complaints are very rare.

Submitted by svelte on May 31, 2020 - 4:05pm.

You're right scaredy.

All cops are assholes who would cover up their own buddies doing anything.

In fact, had you been standing there, you would have run right over and pushed the cop off of him because you are not a bad citizen. It would have been immediately obvious to you that the man was dying. You would have been first one to do the right thing. I can see it now. The man with the handle "scaredy" saving a man's life.

I think you should join the police force and clean that organization up.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 31, 2020 - 4:15pm.

svelte wrote:
You're right scaredy.

All cops are assholes who would cover up their own buddies doing anything.

In fact, had you been standing there, you would have run right over and pushed the cop off of him because you are not a bad citizen. It would have been immediately obvious to you that the man was dying. You would have been first one to do the right thing. I can see it now. The man with the handle "scaredy" saving a man's life.

I think you should join the police force and clean that organization up.

citizens have no duty to rescue. You could be dying in the street and i could walk over your body with no repercussions.

Cops on the other hand arguably have a duty to rescue. So if they see someone in distress, they are legally required (some believe) to rescue.

Also, only an idiot would have assaulted the police in that situation.

If floyd had died with no witnesses, I guaranfuckingtee you those other officers would not have ratted out their buddy. 100% guarantee. Hell, it wouldn't have been "apparent" anything wrong was done afetr the fact without normal citizen input. the cops wouldve agreed, Guy was "resisting" we tried to restrain, him, he basically brought it on himself. shit happens.

And the police report would have been and signed off by all involved. There is zero doubt in my mind as to that.

Maybe policing wouldnt be as dangerous if we hadn't created a militaristic police state with a seriously disenfranchised underclass.

But it is what it is. The police are SUPPOSED to be taking grave risks. that's what they signed on for. officer safety should not be so far above citizen safety. but that's what's happened. No risk is tolerable for the officer. We need to make sure the cuffed guy on the ground cant wiggle.

society has evolved into a very messed up situation. I wouldn't be a cop under any circumstances, let alone the current clusterfuck.

Submitted by svelte on May 31, 2020 - 4:15pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
svelte wrote:
You're right scaredy.

All cops are assholes who would cover up their own buddies doing anything.

In fact, had you been standing there, you would have run right over and pushed the cop off of him because you are not a bad citizen. It would have been immediately obvious to you that the man was dying. You would have been first one to do the right thing. I can see it now. The man with the handle "scaredy" saving a man's life.

I think you should join the police force and clean that organization up.

citizens have no duty to rescue. You could be dying in the street and i could walk over your body with no repercussions.

Cops on the other hand arguably have a duty to rescue. So if they see someone in distress, they are legally required (some believe) to rescue.

Also, only an idiot would have assaulted the police in that situation.

If floyd had died with no witnesses, I guaranfuckingtee you those other officers would not have ratted out their buddy. 100% guarantee. Hell, it wouldn't have been "apparent" anything wrong was done. Guy was "resisting" we tried to restrain, him, he basically brought it on himself.

And the police report would have been fictional. and signed off by all involved. There is zero doubt in my mind as to that.

Maybe policing wouldnt be as dangerous if we hadn't created a militaristic police state with a seriously disenfranchised underclass.

But it is what it is. The police are SUPPOSED to be taking grave risks. that's what they signed on for. it's just that society has evolved into a very messed up situation. I wouldn't be a cop under any circumstances, let alone the current clusterfuck.

You're part of the problem. You'll bitch and complain but you won't take action. You're a bad apple through inaction.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 31, 2020 - 4:45pm.

svelte wrote:
scaredyclassic wrote:
svelte wrote:
You're right scaredy.

All cops are assholes who would cover up their own buddies doing anything.

In fact, had you been standing there, you would have run right over and pushed the cop off of him because you are not a bad citizen. It would have been immediately obvious to you that the man was dying. You would have been first one to do the right thing. I can see it now. The man with the handle "scaredy" saving a man's life.

I think you should join the police force and clean that organization up.

citizens have no duty to rescue. You could be dying in the street and i could walk over your body with no repercussions.

Cops on the other hand arguably have a duty to rescue. So if they see someone in distress, they are legally required (some believe) to rescue.

Also, only an idiot would have assaulted the police in that situation.

If floyd had died with no witnesses, I guaranfuckingtee you those other officers would not have ratted out their buddy. 100% guarantee. Hell, it wouldn't have been "apparent" anything wrong was done. Guy was "resisting" we tried to restrain, him, he basically brought it on himself.

And the police report would have been fictional. and signed off by all involved. There is zero doubt in my mind as to that.

Maybe policing wouldnt be as dangerous if we hadn't created a militaristic police state with a seriously disenfranchised underclass.

But it is what it is. The police are SUPPOSED to be taking grave risks. that's what they signed on for. it's just that society has evolved into a very messed up situation. I wouldn't be a cop under any circumstances, let alone the current clusterfuck.

You're part of the problem. You'll bitch and complain but you won't take action. You're a bad apple through inaction.

i suppose, in part. This is a pretty big systemic problem, complicated by the reality that it is divided up into thousands of local cultural subsets and departments.

Kinda like blaming some dopey commuter for global warming for driving his escalade.

in my humble opinion, saying this is just a "bad apple" cop and the average cop would've turned this guy in, is just absurd. they by and large tolerate misbehavior from their cohorts, same as they would in the military at war. us against them. they would die for each other. having such close relationships is part of the pleasure of the work.

frankly im jealous of that. i would love to experience that. I am far too physically weak and introspective and hesitant to ever be a police officer. I would last 12 minutes.

reportedly there were 18 civilian complaints against the killer. maybe we will find out how many co-officer complaints there were. My money is on ZERO.

I never said all cops are assholes. I woudl say virtually all cops stick together, especially ina situation where there is any possible ambiguity and there is little chance of being detected...but even if there isn't, they keep their mouths shut. that is the culture.

hell even in corporate america you don't move up the chain by making a lot of HR complaints.

a change in culture might be one where officers are REWARDED for making allegations that can be substantiated against one another. like a crimestopper reward.

promote successful snitches.

make partners rotate very frequently, so they don't become personally attached to one another.

The odds of that happening; very very very low. i hate to say zero, but...zero.

have them regularly review allegations of misconduct and show them regular firings involving misconduct to show the seriousness of the matter of getting a verifiable complaint.

and the song fuck tha police does not reflect my personal feelings; it's just alarming that it reflects so many citizen's feelings....

seems like only yesterday the polcie were in such a tizzy about disrespectful colin kaepernick. cop union wanted to boycott the games. funny...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct...

"the union for police officers who work San Francisco home games says its members may boycott policing the stadium if the 49ers don't discipline Colin Kaepernick for refusing to stand during the national anthem and for his statements about law enforcement...."

kind of hilarious in a dark way....cops definitely are not good at taking criticism.

and seriously, I think the cop has a good chance of walking...so why is there any need for his fellow officers to report him? he hired the philando castile case lawyer, so the lawyer knows how to win. i'd lay odds, 60/40 he walks.

Submitted by outtamojo on May 31, 2020 - 4:47pm.

a whole room full of cops applauded when trump suggested being rough with suspects.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 31, 2020 - 4:56pm.

outtamojo wrote:
a whole room full of cops applauded when trump suggested being rough with suspects.

i think the truth is, in our hearts, though we won't admit it, we all like to see a little pretrial rough justice. it seems...just. we are not robots. neither are cops.

should not a bad violent man get a little ass whupping upon arrest? Would that violate your sense of justice? not law, not procedure, not the constitution...but your own sense of rightness...

if you can carefully look in your own heart to see if that feeling is in yourself...and i think it's there, if just a little kernel of it...might it not also exist in a cop's heart too?

and if we want it to stop, the penalty for doing it must be more than nothing. because that's where we are at. this case, on video, national riots, worst case scenario--may walk. but the little ones, where they don't die...

nothing. no worries.

Submitted by outtamojo on May 31, 2020 - 4:57pm.

Yes we all have feelings and judgments but as professionals, we should be...professional.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 31, 2020 - 5:04pm.

outtamojo wrote:
Yes we all have feelings and judgment but as professionals, we should be...professional.

i dont' even know what the word "professional" means.

really good at?

specific licensing requirements?

oversight by governing body of similar professionals?

certainly their profession is not governed by us and
does not significantly penalize roughing up suspects under most circumstances when they dont die.

you have to really screw up. if you want more professional behavior, you need way more accountability, way more fear from the cops amongst each other and their employer. That's just not the culture.

we dont control the police. they control us. I'm not sure what it would really take to change their culture. Probably the only thing that would possibly work is financial pressure through litigation that would eventually cause them to lose funding.

but that's not an avenue the courts will allow.

for now, they a re their own profession with their own code of conduct and they dont' particualrly have to answer to me or you. or anyone, really.

Submitted by svelte on May 31, 2020 - 5:13pm.

This is more like the officers I've known:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/us/flint-...

Truly good people who took the job for much the same reason that firemen and health care workers often do: they like to help people.

I know 3 San Diego police officers. One I worked with before he joined the force. He's a bit of a wild man and that has caused him an issue on the force which I've read about in the paper. He's black and seems to have calmed down as he's gotten older.

The other two I became friends with in other social circles and we hit it off with them and their wives, so we socialize a lot. I'd trust them with anything of mine. I cannot imagine them doing anything even remotely unethical and the stories they can tell - San Diego has some crazy shit go on!

I can also tell you that every time - every time! - we go out with them, someone in the restaurant or concert will pull them aside and start talking. When I ask who that was, it is almost always a fellow officer.

So....the light bulb went off. If there is an officer at every public place we go to with them, there is one at every public place we go to without them also. So you've no doubt run into a lot of them too. You're just not aware of it.

And I still say - if you truly believe something is corrupt and you do nothing, you're a part of the problem. Take action if you're so convinced there is a better way. That is way more productive than typing on a real estate forum.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 31, 2020 - 5:23pm.

svelte wrote:
This is more like the officers I've known:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/us/flint-...

Truly good people who took the job for much the same reason that firemen and health care workers often do: they like to help people.

I know 3 San Diego police officers. One I worked with before he joined the force. He's a bit of a wild man and that has caused him an issue on the force which I've read about in the paper. He's black and seems to have calmed down as he's gotten older.

The other two I became friends with in other social circles and we hit it off with them and their wives, so we socialize a lot. I'd trust them with anything of mine. I cannot imagine them doing anything even remotely unethical and the stories they can tell - San Diego has some crazy shit go on!

I can also tell you that every time - every time! - we go out with them, someone in the restaurant or concert will pull them aside and start talking. When I ask who that was, it is almost always a fellow officer.

So....the light bulb went off. If there is an officer at every public place we go to with them, there is one at every public place we go to without them also. So you've no doubt run into a lot of them too. You're just not aware of it.

And I still say - if you truly believe something is corrupt and you do nothing, you're a part of the problem. Take action if you're so convinced there is a better way. That is way more productive than typing on a real estate forum.

true. at the end of the day, although I know in my heart this is not a good system, it is working out very well for me. there is zero chance i would protest. I enjoy the way things are. I know it is wrong though.

this conflict makes me uneasy. but not enough to take any personal risk.

ask them if the first few years on the job, they wouldve ratted out chauvin. see if you believe their answer.

they would not. america does not reward speaking truth to power.

Submitted by outtamojo on May 31, 2020 - 5:23pm.

Kinda odd that cops cant/wont clean up their profession but we expect a random on a real estate blog to clean things up for them.

Submitted by svelte on May 31, 2020 - 6:07pm.

outtamojo wrote:
Kinda odd that cops cant/wont clean up their profession but we expect a random on a real estate blog to clean things up for them.

I think your premise is wrong. The vast majority of officers are good people. I've interacted with them socially and sometimes I've been visited by the men in blue. Mostly in my younger days. :-)

Only once did I feel I was dealing with a dishonest cop. He was a San Diego police officer and what he told me was outright lies and he knew they were lies.

All of my other interactions have been positive with officers I felt were doing their best given a tough situation. And their inclination was to give me a break.

I would suggest this - for those of you who believe that officers are corrupt, go do a ride-along! See what they have to deal with day in and day out. If I had their job, I would go home and not sleep all night staring at the ceiling. They have to deal with the worst society has to offer every single day. This is especially true with big city cops.

Small city cops have it much easier. It's more of an Andy Griffith feel. I know that from interactions with northern CA, NV, and OK officers. In northern CA I worked the all night shift while going to school in a mid-sized town. Officers would come in during the night to check on me and shoot the breeze during their break. These were very fine individuals and it pains me to see them thrown in the same bucket as those that are evil.

Even here is San Marcos I've interacted with them a few times. These guys are on a short leash. While they were talking with me, the dispatcher already had another couple of tasks lined up for them. Their time was really stretched thin. They were in regular contact with the main office and consulted with them before taking action in most cases. Things are well documented now, and that's in addition to the body cams officers now wear. Out of curiosity, I've bought one and wear it when I walk the dog. Body cams are a ton of fun. And they keep honest people honest.

Submitted by Hobie on May 31, 2020 - 6:16pm.

How about comply, and sue their ass off later if the cops are wrong?

Submitted by Hobie on May 31, 2020 - 6:19pm.

Cops have to deal with the shit society 99% of the time. I may tend to bias them. They are not always the problem.

Like I said earlier, don't do stuff that will attract a cop... pass bad check, resist, mouth off, you get the idea.

You will make $ if you comply and they are in the wrong with cameras everywhere.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on May 31, 2020 - 6:21pm.

Hobie wrote:
How about comply, and sue their ass off later if the cops are wrong?

generally doesn't work. See "qualified immunity". It's a problem. things could cahnge tho.

https://reason.com/2020/05/29/the-suprem...

the law is definitely on the polcie side now...but maybe it'll shift.

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