DMV renewal fees

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Submitted by moneymaker on January 13, 2019 - 10:50am

Just paid the renewal fees for my 13 year old Mazda Miata MX-5. It was $264, that's crazy for such an old vehicle. My wife has been tempting me to leave CA and move to Texas, it's starting to be more tempting. Just for comparison my 2005 F150 was $300 last time to renew, wonder what it will be next, if it is higher then I may be outta CA.

Submitted by moneymaker on January 13, 2019 - 11:01am.

Wish the DMV provided me a history of fees paid like most private companies.

Submitted by spdrun on January 13, 2019 - 11:51am.

Isn't CA registration valid for two years? $11 per month to register a car doesn't seem expensive at all.

Submitted by NeetaT on January 13, 2019 - 1:27pm.

Democrats: High taxes / High fees / Big government

Republicans: Low taxes / Low fees / Small government

There's your answer!

Submitted by NeetaT on January 13, 2019 - 1:28pm.

.....and Sacramento sits around and wonders why people struggle to make ends meet.

Submitted by flu on January 13, 2019 - 2:43pm.

First off, great choice of car.

Oh, come on now. You are complaining about $264 a YEAR?

Going to dinner at a restaurant these days for 2 is like $60-70 on the low side.

If it makes you feel better
NA Miata is $120.
ND Miata RF is $385.
'11 BMW X5 is $214
'00 Audi is $142
'12 BMW 550 is $252

Plus all off them have a bi-annual smog, which is kinda funny since it's all just OBD2 CEL check, except the 94 which is still a sniff test.

So clearly the solution is, get either a NA miata or ND, and then it dollar costs averages down to your current registration costs.

At least you're probably stock. I'm heavily modified, though everything I do is CARB legal.

Submitted by flu on January 13, 2019 - 2:46pm.

Seriously, if financially, people would be better off elsewhere, then leave. Sheesh....

It's like some of the software engineers I know making $250k+/year before bonus and stock compensations where they wouldn't be able to make that anywhere else in the U.S., but then complaining about how expensive gas prices is in CA versus say Alabama and how they want to leave CA, lol.

Submitted by moneymaker on January 13, 2019 - 7:53pm.

Ok so I checked Texas and you have to have a safety inspection done every year in addition to the registration renewal and smog. Just found out virtually every state requires mandatory insurance as well as smog. Registration is yearly not every other year like smog. Damn what happened to the old days when there wasn't a charge for every frickin thing!
If I didn't have 6 vehicles I probably would not care, so yeah maybe I should part with some of them!
1 truck
1 SUV
1 sedan
1 sports car
1 RV
1 motorcycle
Rarely drive the SUV or truck, but when you need a truck nothing else will do, of course they are both 4x4.

Submitted by spdrun on January 13, 2019 - 5:09pm.

NeetaT: the problem isn't high taxes -- the problem is that Americans don't get much back for their taxes compared to other developed countries. Shit infrastructure, shit public transport, shit education in many areas, shit healthcare unless you can afford very expensive private insurance.

California also pays more to DC than it gets back. Yeah, state vs Federal taxes, but if the money were kept in the state vs being squandered in Afghanistan, Iraq, and God knows where else, it would improve the situation.

And frankly, both parties have been guilty of being pro mass incarceration and pro perpetual war. The only hope may be the radical wing that's starting to develop in the Democratic Party that supports spending money on actually useful things (see above), not welfare for defense contractors and private prison holding companies.

Submitted by spdrun on January 13, 2019 - 5:12pm.

flu: the thing is, gas prices are expensive in coastal CA, but at least you're not dropping $200 to $300 per month in HVAC bills in most years.

Submitted by flu on January 13, 2019 - 6:09pm.

NeetaT wrote:
Democrats: High taxes / High fees / Big government

Republicans: Low taxes / Low fees / Small government

There's your answer!

and you conveniently keep ignoring my comment... aren't your 2018 taxes much more than 2017 because of the SALT deduction cap , which was instituted by the GOP? Why do you coveniently lie to yourself and deny this?

Submitted by FlyerInHi on January 13, 2019 - 7:28pm.

FYI, auto insurance in Nevada is for some reason double California. Not sure about Texas.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on January 14, 2019 - 12:19am.

i paid zero dollars to register my ebike.

yes its bern a brisk ride lately. but zero dollars! no gas! bosch motor so beautiful!

Submitted by flu on January 14, 2019 - 10:43am.

moneymaker wrote:
Ok so I checked Texas and you have to have a safety inspection done every year in addition to the registration renewal and smog. Just found out virtually every state requires mandatory insurance as well as smog. Registration is yearly not every other year like smog. Damn what happened to the old days when there wasn't a charge for every frickin thing!
If I didn't have 6 vehicles I probably would not care, so yeah maybe I should part with some of them!
1 truck
1 SUV
1 sedan
1 sports car
1 RV
1 motorcycle
Rarely drive the SUV or truck, but when you need a truck nothing else will do, of course they are both 4x4.

You didn't hear it from me, If you want to save the hassle from doing a biannual smog, register your cars in one of the few zip codes that don't require biannual smog. Some of them are in Riverside county. If your car is for race/off-road only, elect PNO. But then you'll need to trailer it to events.

Submitted by mom2dmd on January 16, 2019 - 1:29pm.

flu wrote:
NeetaT wrote:
Democrats: High taxes / High fees / Big government

Republicans: Low taxes / Low fees / Small government

There's your answer!

and you conveniently keep ignoring my comment... aren't your 2018 taxes much more than 2017 because of the SALT deduction cap , which was instituted by the GOP? Why do you coveniently lie to yourself and deny this?

You seem to be the one in denial or confused. The SALT cap should motivate taxpayers in high-tax blue states to reign in taxation and spending by their state and local governments to the extent taxpayers don't agree with state and local government policies. Short-term: higher total taxation. Long-term: lower total taxation and/or greater accountability/transparency of state and local governments.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on January 16, 2019 - 1:43pm.

mom2dmd wrote:

You seem to be the one in denial or confused. The SALT cap should motivate taxpayers in high-tax blue states to reign in taxation and spending by their state and local governments to the extent taxpayers don't agree with state and local government policies. Short-term: higher total taxation. Long-term: lower total taxation and/or greater accountability/transparency of state and local governments.

How is that logical? It’s like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

If you don’t like taxes, you want whatever taxing authority to lower its own taxes.

Assuming a similar overall tax burden, you would prefer to pay taxes closer to you because your community gets most of the benefits. That is if you’re rational. That’s presumably why the Brits wanted Brexit — so they don’t send money to Brussels.

Submitted by flu on January 16, 2019 - 5:34pm.

mom2dmd wrote:
flu wrote:
NeetaT wrote:
Democrats: High taxes / High fees / Big government

Republicans: Low taxes / Low fees / Small government

There's your answer!

and you conveniently keep ignoring my comment... aren't your 2018 taxes much more than 2017 because of the SALT deduction cap , which was instituted by the GOP? Why do you coveniently lie to yourself and deny this?

You seem to be the one in denial or confused. The SALT cap should motivate taxpayers in high-tax blue states to reign in taxation and spending by their state and local governments to the extent taxpayers don't agree with state and local government policies. Short-term: higher total taxation. Long-term: lower total taxation and/or greater accountability/transparency of state and local governments.

The easiest way to test if someone argues strictly based on the financial merits of a tax change or argue only based on political affliction associated with the tax change is simply to substitute the political party that introduced the tax change to see if the person had the same reaction.

I am pretty confident that neetaT and you are in the same category , the latter category... If the democrats I introduced this SALT cap, neither of you gloss over it, neither of you would be redirecting to the idea that this is strictly a blue states problem that should be solved by your proposed unlikely solution that you know well wont happen, and that this SALT cap is a good thing. Both of you would be screaming off the top of your head that "look at all those democrats increasing taxes again". The only reason you are redirecting is because this is the largest tax increase for many of you and it came from the Republicans.

This is why many of you don't mind getting screwed. because rather than view this as a more tax versus less regardless of party, many of you still argue red versus blue even when it's against your best interest, lol.

But hey enjoy your higher tax bill to support the red cause in red States. ha ha ha

Submitted by mom2dmd on January 16, 2019 - 6:20pm.

As a California resident, the legislation is theoretically (but not in actuality) against my financial interest yet I agree with it. I have no political affiliation. I understand and appreciate federalism. The federal government (Peter) was tired of being robbed to pay for state and local governments (Paul) via SALT deductions from federal taxes.

Submitted by spdrun on January 16, 2019 - 6:26pm.

The real robbery is BY the Federal govno-mint, not OF it ... we've wasted trillions on a homicide spree by our military since 9/11/01. Same goes for funding for "anti terror" security theater.

That money could have been spent on infrastructure, healthcare, the environment, and education, but instead was pissed away for welfare for upper-level military, law enforcement, and their pet contractors.

Doesn't it burn you that we could have had first-rate versions of the services above, but instead, we made a few hundred thousand corpses (if not millions) in places that aren't worth a dime of US money? All this while leaving the true culprits behind 9/11 (the Saudis) untouched.

Federalism is overrated; California would be better off on its own without having to pay for the military adventurism and moral panics of the rest of the USA.

Submitted by mom2dmd on January 16, 2019 - 7:58pm.

Federalism is underappreciated these days. Just look at people calling the Senate racist and seeking to abolish the electoral college. I completely agree with all of the other points. I was at Ground Zero on 911. Both parties (perhaps uniparty???) at all levels of government have squandered our money to benefit a select few.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on January 17, 2019 - 3:11am.

mom2dmd wrote:
As a California resident, the legislation is theoretically (but not in actuality) against my financial interest yet I agree with it. I have no political affiliation. I understand and appreciate federalism. The federal government (Peter) was tired of being robbed to pay for state and local governments (Paul) via SALT deductions from federal taxes.

I think you need to retake the political science class and learn the difference between a federal government and a unitary government.

Your two recent posts are contradictory. First you want the federal government to collect more taxes from high income states (more centralization in Washington DC). But then you argue in favor of federalism where power is divided between the central government and the states (less centralization in DC).

Btw, the electoral college is undemocratic. It’s not direct suffrage and not one man one vote. The Senate is also undemocratic and anachronistic. Alaska has 2 senators and Washington DC with about the same population has none. How is that fair?
Btw, Alaska has a smaller population than the City of San Diego, not including the rest of the county.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on January 17, 2019 - 2:50am.

spdrun wrote:

Federalism is overrated; California would be better off on its own without having to pay for the military adventurism and moral panics of the rest of the USA.

California would definitely be richer. The California dollar would be stronger.

With federalism, we Californians are taxed proportionately much more than our federal representation. Taxation without representation! I call for CalExit!

California is already richer than the UK and France even though we have a much smaller population.

Submitted by moneymaker on January 19, 2019 - 11:08pm.

Ok so I finally figured out why DMV registration was so high, son got a parking ticket, didn't pay it so it got tacked onto the vehicle registration. Says he will reimburse me, just had to read the fine print on the renewal notice.

Submitted by spdrun on January 20, 2019 - 2:45pm.

That's actually a lot fairer of a system than in NJ, where the copscum will actually arrest people for unpaid parking tickets. Civil collection at time of registration seems a lot simpler and less disruptive/violent.

Submitted by NeetaT on January 29, 2019 - 10:53am.

The average DMV fee in CA is comparable to the DMV fee in Clark County NV. Clark County NV effective property tax rate is .77 % of assessed value. I lived in Clark County NV and felt like I was paying no tax at all compared to the total taxes imposed by CA. I will move back to NV as soon as my wife's job ends.

DMV fees: Comparable to Clark County, NV.
Sales tax: Comparable to Clark County, NV.
Property tax far less in Clark County, NV. than CA.
No income tax in Clark County, NV.
A $750,000.00 home in CA is a $300,000.00 home in Clark County, NV.

I am retired, so Clark County, NV is a great option for me. If you have to work and need a high paying job then maybe this would not be a good option. I like golf and the outdoors, so it is a great option and seeing that I lived there before, I am comfortable about returning.

Submitted by FlyerInHi on January 30, 2019 - 11:19am.

Check the cost of auto insurance in Clark County, NV.
You need to go further East. Californians ruined Nevada already, haha.

If you live in CA because of your wife’s job, then that means that all things considered, California is still superior. Otherwise, you would have made the rational choice to move already. Simple economics.

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