California Doomsayers....

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Submitted by Coronita on September 14, 2021 - 3:48pm

How do you think the recalls will play out?

Submitted by XBoxBoy on September 14, 2021 - 3:57pm.

Newsom probably keeps his job.

Small chance that recall is successful, and Larry Elder becomes governor. If he does, vetoing legislation passed by assembly will be his only way to impact the state. Not sure if SB9 and SB10 are signed by Newsom yet or not. If not, I suspect Elder would veto them.

Submitted by Myriad on September 14, 2021 - 6:54pm.

The recall went off the rails went anyone could just be on the ballot.
Not a huge fan of Newsome, but Elder... seriously?

Submitted by svelte on September 14, 2021 - 6:57pm.

Myriad wrote:
The recall went off the rails went anyone could just be on the ballot.
Not a huge fan of Newsom, but Elder... seriously?

Ditto.

When I heard Elder was a conservative talk host, I figured they would have enough ammo on him to keep him from getting elected. Looks like that will end up being true.

Submitted by Coronita on September 14, 2021 - 7:17pm.

I'm beginning to think this was a beautifully executed plan... Elders is so extreme, I'm sure it rallied a bunch of people who wouldn't have participated in the recall election to vote. Given that even with 25%, he could be the next governor...

Submitted by EconProf on September 15, 2021 - 2:13pm.

CA voters have spoken, so Newsom is in for 2, or maybe 6 more years. Now, as writer H. L. Mencken once said, they are going to get what they voted for, good and hard.
The exodus from CA of businesses and people will accelerate, as the "push factors" continue to grow. Can San Diego RE be far behind?

Submitted by The-Shoveler on September 15, 2021 - 2:33pm.

SD seems to be run a whole lot better than LA, So I would imagine SD will continue to attract those with the means to escape LA.

But Probably just about anywhere is run better than LA.

Submitted by an on September 15, 2021 - 2:39pm.

EconProf wrote:
CA voters have spoken, so Newsom is in for 2, or maybe 6 more years. Now, as writer H. L. Mencken once said, they are going to get what they voted for, good and hard.
The exodus from CA of businesses and people will accelerate, as the "push factors" continue to grow. Can San Diego RE be far behind?

Econ 101 (supply vs demand) say San Diego's RE will be just fine. Especially if you're talking about SFR w/in 15-20 minutes of the coast.

Submitted by an on September 15, 2021 - 2:39pm.

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Submitted by XBoxBoy on September 15, 2021 - 5:38pm.

EconProf wrote:

The exodus from CA of businesses and people will accelerate, as the "push factors" continue to grow. Can San Diego RE be far behind?

I'm hoping so! EconProf, please tell all your friends how wonderful Utah is, and what a mess CA is so they will move!

Submitted by Hobie on September 15, 2021 - 6:56pm.

Even if Newsom was recalled, whomever replaced him would be stonewalled by the Democrats in the legislature and especially the democrat support staff. So effectively no change to Newsom's policies.

Submitted by sdrealtor on September 15, 2021 - 6:57pm.

8 pm in Saint George and currently 93 degrees. Such bliss

Submitted by Hobie on September 15, 2021 - 7:00pm.

Still think the elephant in the room is the integrity of the mail in ballot and need to ID actual voters.

Submitted by EconProf on September 16, 2021 - 5:46am.

The-Shoveler wrote:
SD seems to be run a whole lot better than LA, So I would imagine SD will continue to attract those with the means to escape LA.

But Probably just about anywhere is run better than LA.

Yes, SD RE has benefited from the flight from worse-run coastal cities of the Bay area and LA. But it is still in CA and will be pulled down by CA's self-imposed problems. It is the least-dirty shirt in the closet.

Submitted by EconProf on September 16, 2021 - 5:52am.

sdrealtor wrote:
8 pm in Saint George and currently 93 degrees. Such bliss

Yep, it is hot here for 4 months of the year. But remember that because of our mountains and higher elevation, there is a 30-degree swing in temperatures between late afternoon and early mornings, when an 87 degree high means mornings in the 60's.
BTW, it is hotter in lower elevation Phoenix and Las Vegas, which doesn't seem to slow refugees from CA to those rapidly growing cities.

Submitted by Coronita on September 16, 2021 - 6:24am.

I20.... BINGO!

Submitted by sdrealtor on September 16, 2021 - 11:54am.

EconProf wrote:
sdrealtor wrote:
8 pm in Saint George and currently 93 degrees. Such bliss

Yep, it is hot here for 4 months of the year. But remember that because of our mountains and higher elevation, there is a 30-degree swing in temperatures between late afternoon and early mornings, when an 87 degree high means mornings in the 60's.
BTW, it is hotter in lower elevation Phoenix and Las Vegas, which doesn't seem to slow refugees from CA to those rapidly growing cities.

Fake News! It also reaches below freezing most days for four months out of the year. Thank you EconRoker!!

Submitted by EconProf on September 17, 2021 - 6:03am.

Newsflash: they are called seasons.

Submitted by EconProf on September 17, 2021 - 7:39am.

Yeah, St. George has such terrible weather and unsophisticated rubes and retirees. Nothing exciting here happens compared to sophisticated San Diego.
So why did the INTERNATIONAL World Championship Ironman Triathlon pick us for their annual event happening tomorrow, Saturday? 6,000 runners/swimmers/bicyclists.
In past years, they have picked Oahu, San Diego, and other worldwide locations. St. George--so boring.

Submitted by sdrealtor on September 17, 2021 - 2:41pm.

Excellent the world's eyes will be on you this weekend. Maybe next year you'll really step it up and get an archery tournament

FYI they picked a low population location with liberal covid restrictions and they anticipate there will be less than half the usual number of participants. It was moved there last second from New Zealand and they obviously had very limited choices. Dont plan on this being anything more than a one or two off occurence

Submitted by svelte on September 17, 2021 - 3:49pm.

As I've said, I've come across the part of my family tree that is from Idaho and Utah. These people had at least as much drama in their life as Californians do. Divorce rate was just as high. Most of them polygamists in the 1800s. I found an article where my grandmother's brother had her arrested for assault!

And the icing on the cake: my grandfather's sister was murdered in SLC in the 1960s, and the story didn't even make the first section of the newspaper. Some dude got angry at her, dragged her out of the place she worked, and shot her dead on the spot. Didn't even make the first section of the paper...must not have been earth shattering news in SLC.

He was convicted and sentenced to life in prison.

The great state of Utah let him out after 12 years and he kidnapped another woman. Luckily someone intervened or she would have been dead also as he had a loaded 357 on him. Back to prison he went.

Yes, that place is so much better than California!

Submitted by Coronita on September 17, 2021 - 4:39pm.

I find this really interesting... What's up with people that leave the state and still like to throw salt at CA? Don't get it... if people are so much happier elsewhere, why do they still need to come back to this thread to try to convince how much better off they think they are? Makes no sense.

Slow bingo night?

Submitted by EconProf on September 17, 2021 - 5:27pm.

sdrealtor wrote:
Excellent the world's eyes will be on you this weekend. Maybe next year you'll really step it up and get an archery tournament

FYI they picked a low population location with liberal covid restrictions and they anticipate there will be less than half the usual number of participants. It was moved there last second from New Zealand and they obviously had very limited choices. Dont plan on this being anything more than a one or two off occurence

I doubt they moved it from New Zealand at the "last second". NZ has been totally locked down due to COVID for at least a year. Sources please.
One or two off occurence? It is already scheduled for next year.

Submitted by svelte on September 17, 2021 - 5:29pm.

Perhaps not happy until others are unhappy
Or unsure of the huge decision he's made and trying to convince others to take the same path for validation
Or perhaps trying to convince us he is smarter
Perhaps bored as your bingo comment suggests
Or he's crossed into crotchety old man territory

All seem plausible to me...

Submitted by XBoxBoy on September 17, 2021 - 6:41pm.

svelte wrote:
Perhaps not happy until others are unhappy

The irony of this statement is wonderful. I mean this thread is chock full of posts that could be used to argue this. Why do so many feel the need to tell EconProf what a miserable choice they've made?
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Or unsure of the huge decision he's made and trying to convince others to take the same path for validation
How is it different than those that have stayed and want to convince others how wonderful it is where they have stayed and how foolish anyone who left is?
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Or perhaps trying to convince us he is smarter

Oh don't even try to claim there's only one side here trying to make themselves feel smarter.

Don't get me wrong, I have no plans to move from San Diego, but I sure do wish y'all would just let EconProf sing the praises of Utah and help encourage others to move. We got plenty of people here and could easily lose a ton more without degrading our lives.

Submitted by Coronita on September 17, 2021 - 6:56pm.

I would like to know how many times EconProf got carjacked in CA, robbed, had something big stolen, had someone break into his house, how many times he called the cops because his personal safety was in danger while in CA...instead of just being the Faux News Lemmings

Submitted by an on September 17, 2021 - 9:34pm.

Coronita wrote:
I would like to know how many times EconProf got carjacked in CA, robbed, had something big stolen, had someone break into his house, how many times he called the cops because his personal safety was in danger while in CA...instead of just being the Faux News Lemmings

I got my car broken into and all my stereo stripped, got my car stolen in front of the house, got my back window bashed in. My neighbor got robbed because he forgot to close is garage door. This is also not in the ghetto of San Diego. I was pretty blind to the ghetto until I worked in east village. At the parking lot, my coworker got his car pooped on by a person and he caught him in the act.

Submitted by flyer on September 18, 2021 - 1:34am.

EP.

Just enjoy yourself, and don't worry about CA. We've all made different choices for different reasons, and, hopefully, we're all happy with our choices. Glad to hear you're happy with your move. Enjoy the seasons!

Submitted by The-Shoveler on September 18, 2021 - 9:50am.

an wrote:
Coronita wrote:
I would like to know how many times EconProf got carjacked in CA, robbed, had something big stolen, had someone break into his house, how many times he called the cops because his personal safety was in danger while in CA...instead of just being the Faux News Lemmings

I got my car broken into and all my stereo stripped, got my car stolen in front of the house, got my back window bashed in. My neighbor got robbed because he forgot to close is garage door. This is also not in the ghetto of San Diego. I was pretty blind to the ghetto until I worked in east village. At the parking lot, my coworker got his car pooped on by a person and he caught him in the act.

Wow!! makes me want to move back to LA LOL.

Submitted by an on September 18, 2021 - 9:59am.

The-Shoveler wrote:

Wow!! makes me want to move back to LA LOL.

That is a little dramatization though. Those things happened over the span of 30+ years lol

Submitted by sdrealtor on September 18, 2021 - 10:15am.

XBoxBoy wrote:
svelte wrote:
Perhaps not happy until others are unhappy

The irony of this statement is wonderful. I mean this thread is chock full of posts that could be used to argue this. Why do so many feel the need to tell EconProf what a miserable choice they've made?
Quote:
Or unsure of the huge decision he's made and trying to convince others to take the same path for validation
How is it different than those that have stayed and want to convince others how wonderful it is where they have stayed and how foolish anyone who left is?
Quote:
Or perhaps trying to convince us he is smarter

Oh don't even try to claim there's only one side here trying to make themselves feel smarter.

Don't get me wrong, I have no plans to move from San Diego, but I sure do wish y'all would just let EconProf sing the praises of Utah and help encourage others to move. We got plenty of people here and could easily lose a ton more without degrading our lives.

It's not about singing the praise of Utah, it is that this is all a thinly veiled ruse to trash CA by EP. If he was intellectually honest and said he's going there to enjoy his kids and grandkids with a lower cost of living there would've been no issue.

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