Boise

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Submitted by matt on July 1, 2022 - 11:11am

Submitted by sdrealtor on July 1, 2022 - 12:26pm.

The same thing is happening in SLC, Provo, Nashville, Phoenix, Austin, Vegas (markets for which there is data) and no doubt many other of flee from blue states to nice clean conservative affordable living. They dont have the white collar professional job base that many left behind. On paper it sounded great to WFH home but now they are looking around at their neighbors who arent like them or they live next to rentals on both sides. Those markets were all heavily investor markets unlike here which pushed their prices up much more than they would have with a higher concentration of homeowners. People are waking up and realizing these places dont have what they left behind. At least for now the Coastal markets around the country as faring better.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 1, 2022 - 12:55pm.

Idaho is one of the last states I'd consider living in. Down there with Mississippi, Oklahoma.

Submitted by gzz on July 1, 2022 - 2:39pm.

My comment on St George also applies to most of these cities.

There’s no shortage of developable land so existing RE is always competing with newer and better developments, and RE prices will trend toward new home construction cost.

They can still be OK investments, especially with cheap financing or tax benefits, but they are too risky IMO for outside investors when their prices run up to levels higher than new construction. They’ll head back down as soon as developers catch up with the surprise demand that drove prices up.

Boise typical SFH looks like they are at 2.5x 2015 prices. I doubt construction prices rose that much. I’d be worried about nominal price declines of 20% there.

Submitted by gzz on July 1, 2022 - 7:24pm.

This new home in suburban Boise looks a whole lot nicer than the typical place in Boise on Zillow at the same 600k price.

https://www.tollbrothers.com/luxury-home...

They even offer a special 5% mortgage promo as an incentive.

Submitted by XBoxBoy on July 1, 2022 - 3:55pm.

There is a post in the reddit thread that claims the data is erroneous:

Quote:
Hi, I work with the econ team at Redfin. While I believe there is a correction beginning in Boise, this particular data is erroneous. We've got an issue with the weekly new listings data there that is causing it to look like they're shooting up in recent weeks, but that's not accurate.

Submitted by Coronita on July 1, 2022 - 4:46pm.

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Submitted by Coronita on July 1, 2022 - 4:50pm.

Lol, I laughed at this redit comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/REBubble/commen...

Quote:
Boise is just a place liberals go to cosplay being conservative for a few years. They get excited to dust off their Santa Cruz mountain bikes and ride a few trails. They buy big trucks and bigger homes, something they couldn't do in their"liberal" cities. They escaped and they feel smarter than all their friends still trapped under the coastal marine layer. Then one day they realize something just doesn't quite fit. Maybe it's the time their favorite indie band skipped Boise, but played in Seattle. Or maybe the fish tacos aren't as crispy. Or maybe they got skipped for promotion because they WFH in a completely different state and are now worried about being laid off. The desire to move back becomes stronger...

Substitute St George for Boise, and the person as...oh never mind....

Submitted by sdrealtor on July 1, 2022 - 11:13pm.

XBoxBoy wrote:
There is a post in the reddit thread that claims the data is erroneous:

Quote:
Hi, I work with the econ team at Redfin. While I believe there is a correction beginning in Boise, this particular data is erroneous. We've got an issue with the weekly new listings data there that is causing it to look like they're shooting up in recent weeks, but that's not accurate.

Just stop with the cosplay

Submitted by The-Shoveler on July 2, 2022 - 12:22am.

Too hard to get to the beach in most of these places.
I could move to Florida maybe, but phoenix etc.. is definitely out for me.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 2, 2022 - 1:49pm.

sdrealtor wrote:
XBoxBoy wrote:
There is a post in the reddit thread that claims the data is erroneous:

Quote:
Hi, I work with the econ team at Redfin. While I believe there is a correction beginning in Boise, this particular data is erroneous. We've got an issue with the weekly new listings data there that is causing it to look like they're shooting up in recent weeks, but that's not accurate.

Just stop with the cosplay

I think cosplay is all anyone anywhere does nowadays. Life is one big Snapchat filter

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 2, 2022 - 1:49pm.

The-Shoveler wrote:
Too hard to get to the beach in most of these places.
I could move to Florida maybe, but phoenix etc.. is definitely out for me.

Beach is a state of mind.

Submitted by flyer on July 2, 2022 - 3:17pm.

Actually, there is a lot of scientific evidence that living near or visiting the water often has immense physical and mental health benefits. I know we'd never want to be far from the ocean--it's part of our daily life.

As far as other markets declining for a variety of reasons. Imo, if the locations meet the needs of those who moved there for long-term reasons--then they probably don't care--since they are living the lives they want to live.

If others moved for other reasons, or are investors, they may get burned, but only time will tell how it all plays out.

Not everyone can or want to live in CA, and I give people credit who honestly evaluate their life goals, and make changes accordingly. Better to be honest with yourself than trying to survive in a place you and your kids know you can't afford long-term, with little hope of an early or stable retirement.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 2, 2022 - 7:50pm.

Skin cancer, raw sewage, lots of assholes, crowds, no parking. Ca beaches are not peaceful. Maybe somewhere, but not so cal.

Submitted by Coronita on July 2, 2022 - 9:05pm.

scaredyclassic wrote:
Skin cancer, raw sewage, lots of assholes, crowds, no parking. Ca beaches are not peaceful. Maybe somewhere, but not so cal.

flyer has access to his own private beach. He can't relate.

Military beach isn't that crowded too.

I wouldn't mind living on a farm. Have my own chickens.

I don't go to the beach that often.

Submitted by flyer on July 2, 2022 - 10:12pm.

There are great beaches in lots of locations--public and private--and not just in CA. If you go at certain times to run, walk, or do whatever you want to do, you can avoid the crowds at beaches like Del Mar and Torrey Pines which are close to us, and yes, some military beaches are great.

Same with hiking, biking, and other outdoor activities. From the desert to the mountains to the ocean--loads of great places to enjoy life outside, and, of course, you have to take precautions wrt your skin, etc.

Submitted by Coronita on July 2, 2022 - 10:18pm.

Black's Beach isn't that crowded..

You should try to go there Scardey, lol.

Submitted by flyer on July 2, 2022 - 10:41pm.

Lol. Haven't been to that beach, but, yes, age can be a sad thing, if you don't take care of yourself--and especially if you weren't good looking to begin with.

We know quite a few people who are complaining about aging--even some in their 40's. Of course, there is always plastic surgery for those who need it, but it generally doesn't seem to come out too well.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 2, 2022 - 11:59pm.

I may not be rich, but I look awesome (for me, not objectively speaking) naked. I would say as good as I've ever looked.

Except when I pick my arms up. The slightest loosening of skin, plus a skin tag. damnit. I think I'll be ok as long as I keep my arms down.

But I am one of those weird old guys whose face looks really aged and whose body doesn't match it's fucked up face, which might be even creepier than just being a naked consistent fat old guy, now that I think of it. Like Mr. Burns did a head transplant with some unsuspecting new hire at the nuclear plant.

There is no way I'm getting plastic surgery tho. I look weird enough in the face as it is. Anything else might be downright terrifying. I don't even see my dad anymore, I'm looking straight into the visage of my grampa.

I can't imagine either grampa getting Botox, or working on their jowls, and to honor their memory and legacy, as fairly authentically replicated and transitorily embedded in my current somewhat saggy mug, I will leave it as is, like an historical landmark.

To do otherwise would be to dishonor them, I think. Why would I deny them the satisfaction of seeing me morph into them?

My body skin is creepily well preserved, unlike this face, basically because I was an indoor cat for years, then a paranoid spf cat for the balance. Yet my face got exposed enough to look damaged.

I never go outside without a shirt, even in a pool id wear a swim shirt. scaredy is terrified of skin cancer. I wear denim jackets w a t shirt. Super high sun protection, actually fairly comfortable.

In short, blacks beach is out. Scaredy is also scared of sunscreens , only believes in heavy clothing.

One secret to always looking reasonably good through a lifetime, so simple, yet not followed...which should be taught to every HS student....never, ever , EVER buy bigger pants after age, say, 25.

Stop eating until you fit in your damn pants. You may buy smaller pants, but never bigger pants. But if you buy smaller pants, that's it, that's your number. So be sure.

Buying bigger new pants is basically saying, fuck it, I give up. And where does it end? Who knows, who cares, i'll just keep buying pants.

It's really not difficult if followed all yourlife to draw a line in the sand and say, I am a 32, I will always be a 32, and I refuse to not be 32.

Anyway, it's never too late to say fuck it, I am never buying bigger pants ever again.

My dad always told me this was nice in theory, but wouldn't work out in reality, and told me I'd be buying new pants someday. He turned out to be wrong on that one, and also about his prediction I'd be enjoying cigars by now, but right on a lot else I would've thought wrong at the time.

You can't button your pants one day, so you skip a few meals, or become vegan and avoid everything you like, and it works itself out in a couple weeks.

You may recall squatting scaredy from many years ago, but scaredy has a new exercise regimen, far more portable. Burpee scaredy. You can Google burpees. What a thoroughly exhausting workout. So tiring you won't even want to eat.

Another good check is to make sure you always can do X number of pullups. Same as the pants trick.

Vegan scaredy is very irritating, much more irritating than naked or burpee scaredy, he no longer discusses that topic anywhere including forums. Obviously all scaredies are annoying, but vegan scaredy is unbearable.

Is this funny?

https://www.elwooddogmeat.com/

Submitted by flyer on July 3, 2022 - 12:21am.

Excellent points, scaredy. We're driving up the coast for the 4th, so I'm waiting for my wife to get ready. Love driving at night with the top down, and less traffic.

As far as looks, we can only do the best we can with what we have, and it sounds like you are. Genetics do seem to play a big part. Illness too, for those who have been through those trials.

My dad and grandpa looked 20 years younger than they were until they died, both at around 90--and, according to their wives--still tall, dark, and handsome.

Everyone will age, whether they like it or not, unless, of course, they die first. The fact that we've lived long enough to get older puts us ahead in the game of life, and that is definitely something to be proud of.

As far as the link--setup to prove a point. Just Google it. You'll see.

Happy 4th to all!

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 3, 2022 - 7:55am.

Elwood's dog meat is the only domestic dog steak provider with direct farm to table that allows you to select your specific breed to maximize the artisanal meat experience. Humanely slaughtered, on a small family farm...how else can people get vit. K9?

We should all respect each other's choices. If meat eaters want to fire up the grill for some chocolate lab ribs, or roast a whole Boston terrier, why should a bunch of shrill peta buffoons ruin the party?

We didn't rise to the top of the food chain to not enjoy the succulent flesh of any animal anytime.

Submitted by Coronita on July 4, 2022 - 7:14am.

flyer wrote:
Lol. Haven't been to that beach, but, yes, age can be a sad thing, if you don't take care of yourself--and especially if you weren't good looking to begin with.

We know quite a few people who are complaining about aging--even some in their 40's. Of course, there is always plastic surgery for those who need it, but it generally doesn't seem to come out too well.

That's one of the advantages being Asian. We generally look 10-15 younger until we are 65. Then we rapidly fall off the cliff.

Theres this made in Japan face peeler cream that like $300 on Amazon. It actually works pretty well. Not from experience , but this Asian lady swears by it and she is inher 50ies and her skin looks great and could pass for looking like she is in her 30ies if you don't notice the her hands.

Don't stay too much in the sun without sunblock or a hat. Folks in the 20-30ies that, their skin looks like a trainwreck by the time they are in their 40ies or 50ies.

Also lots of collagen and biotin....good strong hair and nails...and for thinning hair. Why spend on hair transplant and other western medicine that.doesnt really work.

Submitted by Coronita on July 4, 2022 - 7:18am.

At Blacks Beach, there are far more people there that need to keep their clothes on than acceptable people that could get away with keeping their clothes off. In fact, the number of people in the latter category is close to 0%.

So, Scardey,.it's quite possible you could easily raise that bar.

Submitted by gzz on July 4, 2022 - 12:21pm.

I have a new 71yo neighbor who just moved to OB from a hobby farm in Ramona to reduce chores and be close to her daughter in OB.

I may switch with her. Such great values there compared to closer suburbs. Same for Lakeside places on 2-3 acres.

Scaredy, your size 32 forever plan is partly defeated by vanity sizing. I have a collection of vintage clothing that I purchased new with tags. I wear a 2022 size 32 or 33 right now. My 1970s Sears PermaPrest 32 pants would burst the snap if I tried to close them. The 34 fits, but very snugly.

T-shirt sizing is up about a half size, my Hanes L Pocket Ts from the 70s and 80s fit halfway between a modern M and L.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on July 4, 2022 - 3:16pm.

gzz wrote:
I have a new 71yo neighbor who just moved to OB from a hobby farm in Ramona to reduce chores and be close to her daughter in OB.

I may switch with her. Such great values there compared to closer suburbs. Same for Lakeside places on 2-3 acres.

Scaredy, your size 32 forever plan is partly defeated by vanity sizing. I have a collection of vintage clothing that I purchased new with tags. I wear a 2022 size 32 or 33 right now. My 1970s Sears PermaPrest 32 pants would burst the snap if I tried to close them. The 34 fits, but very snugly.

T-shirt sizing is up about a half size, my Hanes L Pocket Ts from the 70s and 80s fit halfway between a modern M and L.

Good point. Vanity of vanities, all is vanity

Submitted by flyer on July 4, 2022 - 5:32pm.

We're visiting my daughter's family in Malibu, and, wow, it's a busy 4th up here, as are most of the coastal towns.

Generally 34X36 (I'm 6'3")for years, but varies, depending on the cut.

As far as making lifestyle changes, imo, it's a good idea to try before you buy. During the last 10+ years of my flying career, due to seniority, I only flew about once a month, so we were free to check out lifestyles in various locations. Possibly, one of the original remote jobs, before that option became mainstream.

This way, we found what we liked, and didn't like, and still spend extended periods of time at some of the locations every year for variety. Probably wise to find out if you really prefer another lifestyle long term before you go all in.

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