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Submitted by marion on December 19, 2007 - 12:04pm

There is probably more than one mouse living in my garage and I'm pretty pissed. I first noticed a mouse was in my garage a few months back when I saw it's disgusting droppings on our boxes of stuff. Eew! Anyway, then I saw one run out while me and my son were utilizing our storage. Ok, so we set some traps and we caught one. It was small-Thank God. So, I thought ok, maybe no more problems. Then I go in my garage today and saw one.

Ok, I talked to the owner in Oct. and told him there are mice in my garage. I explained to him that we don't have a lot of junk in our garage and it is clean. We have stuff neatly packed in newer boxes. We don't eat in there, we don't live in there, we don't entertain in there. One time I left an empty Starbuck's frappachino cup in there, but that's about it. No food. We've never eaten in there.

So, how in the f*ck did a mouse/mice get in my garage??

Now, the deviant next door neighbors have had trash stacked on the side of their house, outside of their trash cans at times. Not all the time, but more than I would think is acceptable to the homeowner's association. I would guess the damn mice came from them.

Ok, so I asked the owner to get rid of them. He says no because according to him, they are field mice and they are just "around". He told me to take care of it myself.

I'm thinking maybe there's a crack/hole in the garage foundation? whose fault is it? Is the owner responsible? If so, I'm going to demand he do something about this. I rent in an upscale community, I see no reason I should have to put up with this. If he refuses to fix this, I'm so done with this place. I know some of you on here own rental property, so does the owner have to fix this??

Submitted by Trojan4Life on December 19, 2007 - 5:40pm.

Marion,

You certainly are a lightning rod for conversation. Whether intentional or not (and I think not), your posts and comments get responses. Perhaps its the feminine advantage (or disadvantage as this board is dominated by males), but you take everything in stride and have thick skin (probably softer than most of ours).

I too was pretty put off by Navydoc's comments. As an Air Force officer, I think all military officers try to carry ourselves a little more professionally than that. That stuff flies with the sailors and airmen when we're out at sea or deployed, but we should probably leave it there too.

I had a mouse problem in a brand new house in Colorado a few years ago. Just kept trapping the little buggers (I was an owner then). I had two raccoons in my garage the other night eating our dog food...they scurried off when they saw me. In no hurry mind you, just kind of trotted away.

Submitted by Allan from Fallbrook on December 19, 2007 - 6:18pm.

Trojan4Life: Air Force officer? Man, I hope you weren't a jet jock! You guys used to drop bombs on us all the time! Besides everyone knows that the Army officer corps is the backbone of this fine nation. Now that I have the propaganda out of the way, I'd like to get back to the rodent/vermin infestation issue.

When I was a kid, we had a big Rottie named Thor. Thor would routinely frag cats, squirrels, rabbits and other small, furry woodland creatures. I bring this up because I had the thankless task of cleaning up after he was done. Set some traps, and have Junior do cleanup after the traps have triggered. You don't have to deal with the unsightly issue of dead vermin, and your 15 year old learns to cowboy up and be a man.

"From Valley Forge to Iraq, Rangers Have Led The Way" Hoo-ah.

Submitted by eccen in esc on December 19, 2007 - 7:17pm.

eccen in esc

marion, marion, first get some valerian

then get a tin cat from the hardware store - you can catch them live and have your son take them to the field. He probably likes rodents like most kids. Or get a cat to control the mice. If your neighbors are pack rats you could report the problem to the health dept. good luck

Submitted by paramount on December 19, 2007 - 8:02pm.

Marion - your a ninny...

Submitted by recordsclerk on December 19, 2007 - 8:17pm.

If you don't have pets or young children, you can use rat poisen/pellets. It works better then traps, but you might still have to remove the dead mice. Put the poisen or traps in places where you've seen mice droppings. If you see obvious holes in house that need to be sealed you can request that you landlord take care of the problem.

Submitted by marion on December 19, 2007 - 8:17pm.

paramount, I'm a lot of things...

Anyway...

Trojan thanks for the comment, my skin is kinda soft I guess. :)

I can't get cat. I HATE cats. I wonder if a dog would do the trick...won't be getting a dog for awhile though.

Submitted by marion on December 19, 2007 - 8:25pm.

Submitted by recordsclerk on December 19, 2007 - 8:17pm.

"If you don't have pets or young children, you can use rat poisen/pellets. It works better then traps, but you might still have to remove the dead mice. Put the poisen or traps in places where you've seen mice droppings. If you see obvious holes in house that need to be sealed you can request that you landlord take care of the problem."

Records clerk, thanks. One reason I wanted the owner to take care of the problem was so he could check for holes. I don't see where that's so unreasonable to so many who have replied.

Blue sky, thanks for that info. I'm going to take that to the owner.

Submitted by waitingpatiently on December 19, 2007 - 8:32pm.

Are you serious? Why are there so many posts that are off topic lately?

You have flippin' mice...it's cold...get some traps. I wonder if you had a man in the house if you would still be complaining about this?

Submitted by stockstradr on December 19, 2007 - 8:37pm.

We rent.

I'm certain there are mice in our garage, as there are in most garages. They are probably in there right, a team of them using a dust bunny to play a soccer game! Nevertheless, I cannot imagine ever calling any landlord about a mice "problem" in a garage.

Also, in our current home we have previously had flies problem, and ant problem.

We solved those issues ourselves. We don't have time to screw around waiting for landlord. It is quicker to solve issues ourselves.

Now if there was a termite problem, yes we would direct landlord to solve that.

You have to pick your battles carefully. Otherwise you just become nuisance to landlord.

Submitted by KIBU on December 19, 2007 - 8:59pm.

Words without action is no help. Marion, what's your address, I will send you 5 free mouse traps that I used in the past. I totaled 38 mice killed in action. In fact, my garage doesn't have any mouse since and I think they migrated to my neighbor (very upscale!!!).

No obligation, sastifaction guaranteed, free installation too.

Submitted by CMcG on December 19, 2007 - 9:26pm.

Marion--I am a fellow female who inherited a phobia about rodents. This is because my mother, who grew up during the Depression in Chicago, often woke up with mice or rats in her bed. The houses my parents bought when they came to California in the 1950s-60s were in new developments -- the first in Clairemont, the second in San Carlos. My mom was so afraid of mice/rats that if she saw one in the house when we were not yet old enough to go to school, she would insist we sit outside on the front porch and wait for my dad to get home from work...sometimes this was 7 or 8 hours.

When I lived in an upscale apartment a few years ago, mice/rats got into our units via the lovely palm trees. The LL paid for an exterminator post haste because none of us were doing anything wrong. I am among the few on this thread who think your landlord should pay for this, as well. I own now, and if I see any evidence of mice, I am going to trap them and get my best friend (a male) to look at the traps each day. Your son should do this for you. Use peanut butter, not cheese. So far, no rodents. But if I get them, I will happily become a bitter cat lady!

Submitted by seattle-relo on December 19, 2007 - 9:40pm.

Marion -
You sure get all the men going on this site! BTW, you should be nicer to HLS, he's actually quite charming.

As a woman, I agree rodents are awful! Back in Seattle I had a problem with rats in my shed. I didn't realize storing bird seed was a rat magnet. One day in early Spring I went into the shed to get some sluggo and a freakin rat jumped out of the container at me - I screamed and ran away as my 5 year old son laughed and thought the little "mouse" was cute.

Anyway, I certainly understand your desire to have the landlord deal with the issue, but unfortunately rodents are a part of life around here. A poster above mentioned that you might want to pick you battles - I would agree with them. Is this what you want to battle your landlord on?

Renting does suck, but so does owning right now :)

Submitted by marion on December 19, 2007 - 10:00pm.

sdrealtor: "I was wondering why the mice keep knocking on my door looking for cookies and slurpees."

Sd, since I love to bake homemade cookies you may be on to something...

I could dress up as Minnie Mouse, and take a platter of freshly baked cookies to the mice. It would go something like this:

Marion: "excuse me. excuse me. Mr. Mouse, I'm scared of you, so would you kindly take your family and leave if I give you these nice cookies?"

I wonder if they like gingerbread...

Submitted by Allan from Fallbrook on December 19, 2007 - 10:04pm.

marion: Uh, I think SDR was implying your lad might be partaking of the wacky tobacky. Being 15 and all, there is a distinct possibility he is... And, quality reefer does attract the rodents, both the two and four legged varieties.

Not that I would know from first-hand experience, but one hears stories.

Submitted by marion on December 19, 2007 - 10:07pm.

recordsclerk: "If you don't have pets or young children, you can use rat poisen/pellets. It works better then traps, but you might still have to remove the dead mice. Put the poisen or traps in places where you've seen mice droppings. If you see obvious holes in house that need to be sealed you can request that you landlord take care of the problem."

I could have my son set out some traps. As I said, we tried the ones that smash them in half, but maybe we didn't put out enough of them. I thought they were gone. We used the peanut butter like the directions stated.

Now, I'm wondering about the poison traps. Someone said that it's really nasty because the mice bleed from being poisoned. Is this true?

Submitted by novice1027 on December 19, 2007 - 10:07pm.

I have to agree with most of the men on this site. DEAL with it! I also am a woman and had a major infestation at one time. The saying goes, if you see one, you have an entire family. What I did was place the mouse trap in a lunch bag, and put that on top of a newspaper, that way when I caught one, I never had to look at it or touch it, (I used jellybeans, that was the only thing that they couln't eat off of the trap without setting it off.) Then I just picked up the paper and tossed it. Next step is to get some decon traps and place them all over the garage. You will never see one again, you may smell a dead one from time to time, but that goes away quickly. By the way, forget the sticky mouse traps, because the little fellows get stuck in there and scream until they die a slow and painful death. That is just plain barbaric.
Navydoc, I have to say I loved your response. We don't always have to be PC. Merry Christmas!

Submitted by marion on December 19, 2007 - 10:16pm.

Allen, no way in hell would my son be smoking pot. He's an innocent one. Of that, I'm sure. The day he ever did, I'd probably jump off a building. We don't tolerate that in my family.

Novice, thanks for the paperbag tip. I can use that if I use the traps that pop 'em in half.

well, someone tell me if they bleed from the stomach if you use poison. That would be a horrible sight.

Submitted by novice1027 on December 19, 2007 - 10:24pm.

They bleed from everywhere. The poison is Coumadin a blood thinner given to people. When they eat the poison they are in search of water, so you will always find them close to a water source. Sound like an expert? I am, I had an awful winter experience some years back, and at one point they were jumping out of my toaster and my stove in the middle of the daylight. My house is very clean has nothing to do with that. Once they come in from the elements, they are your new roommates! YIKES, I have poison traps in every square inch of my house downstairs and garage.
Usually they just curl up and die in a corner,but sometimes you have the unfortunate experience of seeing them in their death throws, still better than screaming for dear life.
Now that I think about it, I have more rodents stories than one would care to mention, I could possibly start a new thread, lol!!

Submitted by EconProf on December 20, 2007 - 9:04am.

BobS
Somehow I doubt many male tenants would complain to their landlords about mice in the garage. They would deal with it themselves.
Marion, you are hurting your gender in the rental marketplace. Landlords have to make objective and subjective calls all the time in deciding on tenants...and your whining has been noted by a lot of owners.

Submitted by NotCranky on December 20, 2007 - 9:32am.

Marion, I have a few extra rattle snakes around my property . I am sure one would take care of your problem.No bleeding mice.

Submitted by AKguy on December 20, 2007 - 10:16am.

Marion, you are clearly the high maintenance type. I'm thinking you might benefit by trying something completely different in your life, like volunteering for Habitat for Humanity.

Good luck with the mice.

Submitted by marion on December 20, 2007 - 12:05pm.

rustico: "Marion, I have a few extra rattle snakes around my property . I am sure one would take care of your problem.No bleeding mice."

Oh, geez. Mice AND snakes. (rolling eyes...) What a nice garage I'd have then.

:)

Submitted by cooperthedog on December 20, 2007 - 1:27pm.

OK, this post is completely inane...

If you want your rat/mouse problem solved in a bloodless & humane manner, buy a ratzapper (ratzapper.com).

I also had a problem in the garage, and this device was great. It is a plastic chamber about the size of a loaf of bread, with a metal plate in the back. Put some dog food in, rat walks inside, steps on plate and is electrocuted almost instantly. There is a light on the top which will blink if tripped, so you can just look in the garage periodically to see if it worked. Disposal of dead rat is clean and simple, just pick up the device and empty into the trash. You will never have to touch a rodent, so you could take care of this yourself, while your son is "blazing" through his homework...

Another note, coumadin (warafin) was originally developed as rat poison. It is given in low doses to humans as a blood thinner - so if you ever have to take it to bust up a blood clot, you can indirectly thank a rat!

Submitted by pbnative on December 20, 2007 - 1:35pm.

I can't get cat. I HATE cats. I wonder if a dog would do the trick...

I've read marion's other posts, and I've always thought 'chic seems to have control issues.' Completely separate of this, I have always thought that people who dislike cats have control issues. I'm feeling so... insightful! Luckily marion doesn't know me and could not possibly care less what I think.

My rottie let possums and racoons come into the house, so I wouldn't rely on getting a dog like Thor. Of course some cats aren't hunters either. But I've always had cats and never had rodents in the house, even though there are plenty in the neighborhood (lots of growth around).

BTW, La Jolla is the definition of upscale, and is supposed to be rat-central. Lots of foliage for nesting, maybe? And gourmet trash?

Submitted by bob2007 on December 20, 2007 - 3:23pm.

Cats are rodents too.

Submitted by marion on December 20, 2007 - 3:30pm.

pbnative, you're right on both counts buddy: I don't wanna know you, Buddy. Also, you might wanna lay off the cheap, arm-chair psychoanalysis. It sounds pretty silly.

Cats smell horrible and they're revengeful creatures. I've always preferred "man's best friend".

Cooper, the contraption you speak of sounds interesting. It sounds like a clean, no-nonsense method of getting rid of these disgusting creatures. Why the dog food though? I always thought mice would prefer something like peanut butter.

Submitted by CMcG on December 20, 2007 - 3:35pm.

Since you don't like cats, consider a rat terrier dog. They were bred to kill rodents, I believe.

Submitted by taz on December 20, 2007 - 3:38pm.

I've always found cats to be excellent judges of character...

Even though Persians aren't known for their hunting skills, my two still manage to ensure that I have never had any mice or other rodent problems in my house.

Submitted by marion on December 20, 2007 - 4:11pm.

Actually, dogs are much better judges of character. Hands down.

Cats, well...They're lazy, sneaky, and again, tend to smell bad.

However, they are excellent for overweight women who are too lazy to walk a dog...

My neighbor has a couple just for that reason.

I like the exercise a dog provides, even though I get plenty of that.

Submitted by cr on December 20, 2007 - 4:15pm.

funniest thread ever.

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