The age of consent in CA for a lot of medical decisions is 12...

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Submitted by flu on May 10, 2019 - 9:22pm

Yup...Just found out in CA that when someone turns 12, that individual has a lot of discretion at whom he/she shares his/her medical information with... Solely at his/her discretion, he/she can refuse to share any information with his/her parents if he/she wants to...

So let's consider a few situations...

1. You suspect your kids are overdosing/crackheads. You can't request the doctor to get him/her tested without his/her consent.

2. You suspect your kid is mentally unstable and wants to get an evaluation just in case he/she might go postal at a school... Can't do it unless you get his/her consent... You can call the police however if you suspect he/she is suicidal or about to go about and shoot people..

3.You suspect your kid might have an eating disorder, and you want your doctor to check if his/her health is in danger... Can't do it without his/her consent.

Morale of the story...If you need to get medical diagnosis for your teen, and they won't cooperate, you are better off dragging them to Utah or Arizona than trying to get it done there. Thankfully, my kid doesn't have a problem consenting... at least not yet...Hopefully they won't ever think about going postal at a school, and if they thought about it, hopefully they won't refuse to get diagnosed....just saying...

Here's the complete laws..

https://www.aapca1.org/sites/aapca1/file...

Submitted by spdrun on May 10, 2019 - 9:32pm.

Good on California for recognizing that people below 18 or 21 still have human rights. Be a shame if your kid reported you for human trafficking on the way to Utah and got you thrown in jail for a few days until the case was resolved.

Submitted by flu on May 10, 2019 - 9:33pm.

...waiting for the progressives to chime in as they usually do about about how 12 year olds and teens should have extreme privacy rights to the point that parents have no say in any sort of medical diagnosis...and then when an mentally unstable kid that denies needing any help decides to go postal, act so surprised that they didn't get any help.

Submitted by flu on May 10, 2019 - 9:39pm.

spdrun wrote:
Good on California for recognizing that people below 18 or 21 still have human rights. Be a shame if your kid reported you for human trafficking on the way to Utah and got you thrown in jail for a few days until the case was resolved.

Thank you for proving my point.

Submitted by spdrun on May 10, 2019 - 10:15pm.

Here's the thing ... the law sounds bad until you realize how shitty some religious/conservative parents are. They'll forbid their kids to speak to their doctor about birth-control issues, then act all surprised, horrified, and Pope-holy when their kid ends up pregnant. And instead of allowing an abortion, they'll saddle their kids with a child at 16 and kick them out of the house. Would you rather California went in the other direction like Alabama or Georgia, where basically no woman has autonomy over their body, even after 18?

I'm sure you're a good parent, but what about parental abuse, sexual abuse, and rape? Should kids have to beg for their abusers' consent before seeing a doctor or a shrink?

The flip-side of your "going postal" argument is that kids can actually seek counseling without their parents knowing what was said in confidence between child and therapist. Bonus points if California gets public health care in the next 5-10 years and psych services are subsidized or free for all residents, including those under 18. This will actually expand access to therapy, make therapy more effective (confidentiality is important), and do more towards your goal of preventing school violence than reducing autonomy would.

BTW, I saw your original post. Nice troll there, speedy.

Submitted by flu on May 11, 2019 - 8:41am.

If a kod really has something like Asperger syndrome, any concerned parent would want their kid to get help as soon as possible so that he/she wouldn't end up a sociopath for the rest of his life, or worse end up on the 6pm evening news. A 12 year old in self denial that he/she has any problems and refuses any sort of diagnosis would probably end up a really screwed up sociopath for the rest of his life....just saying.....draw your own conclusions using real life examples.

Submitted by spdrun on May 11, 2019 - 9:12am.

You're reading this wrong. Minors have a right to consent to mental health services on their own. The law doesn't prevent parents from seeking mental health services for their children. Parents are allowed to be involved in the mental health treatment of their children, but "medical records" are confidential, even from parents. This might be a good thing, considering some parents are abusive, and the patient needs to trust the therapist enough to talk to them honestly.

Drug/alcohol treatment -- minors don't have a right to refuse if parents consent. However, confidentiality laws still apply. This is a good thing, see above.

This law also protects minors and allows them to get birth control, have abortions, get STD/HIV testing, get STD treatment, get prenatal care, all without a parental unit's consent. Again, a good thing considering how hateful and abusive some so-called religious/conservative parents can be.

Read the link before whining so much. I bet you don't listen to your kids either.

Submitted by outtamojo on May 11, 2019 - 9:15am.

The laws to me seem more like a way for a child to seek self help when they have parents with whom they have extreme relationships with.
Imo if by the age of 12 you haven't figured or suspect if your child is on the spectrum that means you haven't put in your work as a parent. As parents our soft power over kids is ginormous! and again, if you need laws to get your kids to do stuff...

Submitted by svelte on May 12, 2019 - 10:28am.

yet. the age of consent for sex in CA is 18.

Submitted by poorgradstudent on May 15, 2019 - 1:22pm.

Birth Control and abortion rights are the main reason the law is what it is. I'm sure the whole anti-gay conversion therapy thing contributes as well.

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